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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Jul 23 15:18:08 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
birthdays to happen later today!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 23 13:19:15 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
good morning beta!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 23 03:01:04 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Anywhere but where it went. I thought they should have gotten rid of Agent Ward as soon as he turned, I wasn't particularly happy that he was made the leader of HYDRA. I would have wanted more exploration of perhaps divisions within the Immortal society.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jul 23 02:10:40 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Where did you see it going?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 23 01:58:53 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I wasn't thrilled with where SHIELD was going, so like you, I dropped it halfway through.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jul 23 01:48:59 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I will have to google it. Did you watch this season's Agents of SHIELD? I
stopped around half way through the season.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 23 01:30:02 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard there appears to be a new iZombie trailer out for next season!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 23 00:45:55 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
I hope this heat wave breaks soon!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 22 23:42:37 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
home!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 22 23:23:55 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Jul 22 23:26:19 2016
Agent Cooper,

Many sites ranking politicians, but too detailed for an easy summary. The
"fivethirtyeight.com" did offer a chart ranking Republicans on how conservative
they were based on record (?) positions (?) or the like.

The chart showed a vertical line representing the average "Republican" in the
113th Congress (2013-2014). Kasich is to the left of this line. OTOH, McCain and
Christie are both to the left of Kasich. Interestingly, Carson's rank is as
Kasich's.

Huckabee and Perry fall exactly on the line indicating they are middle-of-the-
road conservatives.

Santorum and Reagan hold the same position and are slightly to the right of
average.

The most conservative person on the chart is Cruz.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 22 22:47:50 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

When the primaries started, I did not know a lot about Kasich. As candidates dropped
out and Kasich became many folks hope as an alternative to Trump, Julie Mason - host
of The Press Pool - several times said he was not so 'moderate' as he was
being made out to be. So when you posted he was not much of a conservative I
wondered if you and Mason were using different yardsticks.

One explanation is that Kasich's positions lie between Mason and your positions.
From her perspective Kasich veers to the right, but from yours he veers to the left.
What I'll try now is search for one of those groups that keep track of politicians'
voting records and the like.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 20:44:30 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Do I get an "A" ?

:-)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 20:38:42 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Well, there's an element of subjectivity to that question, obviously. And all Republicans claim to be conservative to some extent.

Having said that, let's see...in order of most conservative to least:

1. Huckabee
2. Cruz
3. Santorum
4. Jindal
5. Carson
6. Walker
7. Rubio
8. Trump
9. Fiorina
10. Christie
11. Kasich
12. Pataki
13. Paul
14. I can't even remember who else and who cares at this point....:-)

Note this list has nothing to do with my preferences as to who I wanted to see win.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 22 20:14:31 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

How would you rank the conservative credentials of the 16-odd candidates that ran
for the Republican nomination?

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 19:54:05 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
This story is getting drowned out by the sad events in Munich right now, but it's actually a big thing.

Wikileaks just released a ton of hacked DNC emails, and some of them allegedly show the DNC openly conspiring against Bernie Sanders during the primaries.

(Not that anybody needed emails to tell that was happening.)

If true I wonder how this is going to affect Democratic base when it gets going.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 19:05:50 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Yeah, I get it, they were spitballing. But still. Kasich, a conservative? Ya gotta admit that's just funny.

Chris Marlowe: FAMILY BOARD! :-P



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 22 18:53:06 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper It depends on the truck driver. ;)



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 22 18:30:09 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

The poll offered five people to choose from ...

Clinton
Cruz
Kasich
Standers
Trump

... and assigned them to fictional parties ...

Christian Coalition
Conservative
Liberal
People's Party
Social Democratic


The poll was conducted this past April. Other than Cruz, Kasich, and Trump, were there any other Republicans still in the race for the nomination? I don't recall. Rubio, perhaps?


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 17:24:50 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
I'm not saying it's hot in Upstate NY today, but two Hobbits just threw a ring into my backyard.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 17:12:50 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Oldmanfan: I was thinking of the toll booth angle. Toll plazas are open 24 hours. I don't really want to roll up on.... that.

Eeeeww!

:-)



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OldManFan says:
(Fri Jul 22 17:09:00 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Jul 22 17:10:28 2016
Agent Cooper - are you suggesting that it should be illegal for truck drivers to have sex everywhere?

OMF



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 16:09:17 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Shouldn't that second one be illegal everywhere?

:-)



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Jul 22 14:54:03 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
In Florida it is illegal for single, divorced, or widowed women to parachute on Sunday afternoons.

In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania it is illegal to have sex with a truck driver inside a toll booth.

In Hastings, Nebraska, no couple, even if they are married, may sleep together in the nude. Nor may they have sex unless they are wearing a clean, white cotton nightshirt.

Another law in Helena, Montana, mandates a woman cant dance on a table in a saloon or bar unless she has on at least three pounds, two ounces of clothing.

A state law in Illinois mandates all bachelors should be called master, not mister, when addressed by their female counterparts.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 22 12:55:26 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, July 22nd 2016 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Jai
piedog
Spikette
Undead


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Jai, piedog, Spikette, Undead




My heart expands / 'tis grown a bulge in't / inspired by / your beauty effulgent.
William, 'Fool for Love'


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 22 12:46:30 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay genrefan!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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KAM says:
(Fri Jul 22 12:44:18 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY GENREFAN

KAM
Ty King Fan



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Jul 22 12:13:47 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for genrefan!

yay genrefan!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 22 11:52:33 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: "The Conservative Party, Led By John Kasich "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....
(deep breath)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA..

Wow. Hats off to the economist egg heads for outing themselves as being completely out of touch with American politics.

Cool study, bros!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 22 02:27:56 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Now the active reader will be wondering if the Watchers' Council supplied specific
brains as a means to advance some questionable goal (because everything the Council
does is questionable *g*). OTOH, since there were several brains, how would the
Council know which brain Liv would pick? Perhaps all the brains came from people
with personalities or experiences that when taken upon by Liv would all work towards
the Council's nefarious purpose. OTOOH, Dawn certainly knew the brains were there
and would not (?) let the Council pull a fast one. If that's true, did Dawn pick
particular brains with some ulterior motive.

The reader ponders.

*g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 22 01:28:44 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
"Will you be ok?" Dawn asked, before picking up her bag to go out.

"Yeah, I'll be fine. I won't open the door to strangers" Liv said with a smile.

Liv waved Dawn out and she headed back to the kitchen.

She was a bit surprised to find out that it was stocked with several containers of brains, all labeled with the date of freshness. She wasn't sure how the Watcher's Council managed to have supply on hand on such short notice, but she wasn't sure she wanted to know. She might find out anyways.

She picked a random container and grabbed some eggs and decided to make an omelet, easy and filling. Opening cabinets, until she found they frying pan, she switched to making it scrambled. No seasoning available other than salt and pepper.

She sat down at the table with technically her 'last meal' should this human by way of vampire thing worked. She chewed thoughtfully, worried that she was moving to fast or that this was a dumb decision. Did she really
understand the consequences?

As she finished her meal, she cleaned up after herself and washed the dishes. She still had a couple hours to kill when she found herself making unusual motions with her hands, like she was playing something.

She went to the living room and sat down, letting whatever was happening just go through her. She had a vision of herself looking in the mirror. The reflection showed an old woman, perhaps about 70 or so. She saw 'herself' wrapping a turban around her hair and attaching long earrings to her ears. She was wearing a caftan-like garment of silk, deep red.

The image disappeared and Liv saw herself making some motions with her hands and she had the strong feeling that she was casting some spell. The visions and feeling disappeared and Liv was back to herself again. She wondered why the Council would have the brains of someone like that and the irony of giving it to her. She would ask Dawn when she got back.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 22 00:15:43 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

On the question, not necessarily. Some parliaments have dozens of parties, though
most of these parties are very small. OTOH, being small can be advantageous if and
when none of the major parties gets a majority. The small parties can become
kingmakers. This is often true of Israel's Knesset. You want my (small) party's
support in a coalition? Here's what we want in return.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 22 00:06:32 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Comma That is great to know~

wolfguard That is interesting. I've wondered what a parliamentary system would look like in the US. I note that the 'left-wing' has two parties, the 'right-wing' three. I wonder if that is true of other parliaments.



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Comma says:
(Thu Jul 21 23:53:31 2016 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Without saying to much, there was a real 'Flying Nun' at one time. She was the only person who a certain group, who she gave medical help too and offered spiritual guidance too, that only trusted her and those that she sad were ok. She even flew in SF troops once or twice. Funny, she was not an American.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 21 23:53:10 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Jul 22 00:11:15 2016
The Economist asked, "What if the United States had a parliament?"

"YouGov polled Americans on whom they would prefer in a five-way election;
from this, we predicted the parliament that might emerge.
"

For those who may not have been exposed to the workings of a parliamentary
system, a general principle is that a party gets the percentage of seats equal
to the percentage of votes cast for them.

Since they are treating the poll results as votes for Congresspeople in the US
House of Representatives, the base is 435 seats. If a party were to get 10% of
the vote, then they'd get somewhere between 42-44 seats (since we can yet
fractionate a legislator).

Anyway, the results:

28% voted for "The Liberal Party" lead by Hillary Clinton for a total of 124
seats.

26% voted for "The Social Democratic Party" lead by Bernie Sanders for a total
of 113 seats.

26% voted for "The People's Party" lead by Donald Trump for a total of 112 seats
(I do not know why, given the same percentage, the Social Democrats would get
one more seat than "The People's Party". It may reflect rounding.

11% "The Christian Coalition" lead by Ted Cruz for a total of 49 seats.

finally

9% "The Conservative Party" lead by John Kasich for a total of 37 seats.



Note: None of these parties have a majority and two or more would have to form a
coalition to govern. The Liberals and the Social Democrats together would have
54% of the vote. The big question would be who would be Prime Minster, Clinton
or Sanders?

The People's Party, Christian Coalition, and Conservative Party, all together
equal only 46% of the vote. They would be able to form a government unless
enough legislators defected from the Lib-SD party. Not likely to happen.

ETA Actually, I do recall a ~poll that asked Sanders supporters what they would
do if Bernie did not get the nomination. Some would vote for Clinton, some would
vote for Trump, some would vote Libertarian, and many would not vote. I recall
22% and 18% as two results and I believe they were the percentage for Sander
supporters going over to Clinton and Trump, though I don't remember which one
got which.

So split the difference and imagine if Sanders could not be Prime Minister then
20% of his people would go to Trump and 20% would go to Clinton (that seems odd,
what with Clinton being the reason Sanders would not be PM. OTOH, that 20% could
be more pragmatic or cynical or self-serving party members who flock to the
stronger leader).

Anyway, 20% of the Social Democrats equals around 22 people (22 seats). That
would bring Trump's numbers to 132 and drop the Social Democrats to 97. The
Liberal-Social Democrats would still have more seats 124 + 97 = 221.

If the People's Party built a coalition with the Christian Coalition and the
Conservatives they would have 218 seats, still 3 seats short of the Lib-Dems,
but they might well be able to demand a vote of confidence. :)

Or, they might try shaving 4 or more people from the Lib-Dem's.




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 21 23:40:58 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
in a very crabby mood right now, Post to me carefully!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jul 21 22:57:22 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Apologies for the lateness, I got behind at work due to endless meetings.

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: What show would you have found a character named Sister Bertrille?
Answer: the Flying Nun

Trivia Flyers: nosoShyGirl, OldManFan
trivia grounded: Comma, Agent Cooper



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Comma says:
(Thu Jul 21 22:39:07 2016 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: 'The Frying None', a vegan restaurant where she is the head cook.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 21 17:45:43 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica I had quite a nice, day, although it was a VERY hot day!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 21 17:17:14 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Church Chat



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Jul 21 15:18:18 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe--Did you have
a nice Yay! day?


Yay! neonate!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Jul 21 14:34:22 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
The Flying Nun


Yay Neonate!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Jul 21 14:24:36 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfgaurd no idea what the call themselves. Was reading another thing on a BBC-related site and noticed one about rebellions in Bihar and West Bengal and stretching to the cente r of the country.



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Jul 21 14:24:27 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - The Flying Nun.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jul 21 14:21:30 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: What show would you have found a character named Sister Bertrille?



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KAM says:
(Thu Jul 21 13:25:12 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY NEONATE

KAM
Ty King Fan



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Jul 21 12:58:40 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, July
21st 2016 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Jenn
levitation junkie
Miss Edith
R o B


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Jenn, levitation junkie, Miss
Edith, R o B




Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead
was feeling a little less special.
Didn't like me crashing his
exclusive club, another vampire
with a soul in the world. Angel:
You're not in the world, Casper.
'Just Rewards (2)


to be added to the birthday list,
please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 21 12:43:44 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay neonate!



Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Jul 21 12:04:37 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for neonate!

yay neonate!



Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 21 05:32:32 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Christopher Marlowe!!


Belated Yay Muffy the Vampire Annoyer!




DaddyCatALSO,

Just caught your post on the Indo-Marxists. *g* The ~Naxalites?



Belated Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Having visited some bronzers this past weekend, are there any posters you haven't met that you wish you would have met?

Algerina and valMichael

Rest in Peace



Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 21 02:58:47 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

No. I never watch conventions. I have heard commentators from POTUS, BBC, CNN,
and FOX. Just skimmed RNC headlines on CNN and BBC ...

Cruz says ~ Vote your conscience

Ingraham says ~ Time for all to back Trump

Most interesting was one journalist who said the party is nominating the wrong
Trump. Said Trump's son is more eloquent in defense of conservative principles.
Trump (Sr) just has the wall and something else.

Did see CNN broadcast Trump landing in Cleveland. Came by helicopter. The
background music sounded like block-buster movie epic. I would have expected
some theme music associated with the GOP, just as I would with Democrats.
1 I found the music scary, because it's chosen for the man and not
the party.

Also, a BBC correspondent went to Winchester, Virginia to interview people about
the upcoming election. One woman is a soon-to-be single mom (divorce). She works
as a photographer and her pressing concern is health care. Before Obamacare she
was paying $1,000/month. She is now paying $300/mth. She does not want to go
back to old insurance. Another woman had a start-up microbrewery. It's doing
well enough that she's looking to hire staff, but she can't pay minimum wage
(not sure if she could not pay current one or proposed one. Final person was
opening some sort of LGBT club so LGBT people would have a place to go. The
final person interviewed wasn't going to vote for Clinton or Trump, but perhaps
for that ~ that 'dude' form New Mexico ~ (Libertarian candidate for president).


1 Clinton's use of ~Don't Stop Believing~ or the more famous one used
by FDR or Truman ~Happy Times Are Here Again'



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 21 02:02:36 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfgaurd It's just starting to cool down from a 101 degree day. Have you been catching snippets of the GOP convention?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 21 01:37:15 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

That is true.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 21 00:45:24 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Why research when there is still an active fan base! *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 21 00:34:02 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

So you need either a BtVS bible or an active fan board to catch such things? *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 20 23:39:02 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard DaddyCatALSO[/b] I was thinking about D'Hoffryn talking about Willow's killing of Warren, but should have at least indicated how Dawn knew about it, since Willow was the only one who heard that comment.



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Jul 20 23:36:39 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! ChristopherMarlowe!


Belated Yay! MTVA!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jul 20 23:14:39 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What actor played the Prince of Lies on Angel?
Anser: Camden Toy

Trivia Kings of Trivia: OldManFan, notsoShyGirl
Trivia Peon: Maverick



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 20 23:01:04 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"The Great Courses" offers course titled Heroes and Legends (# 2192)

Here are some of the lectures ...

1 Frodo Baggins - a reluctant hero

2 Odysseus - the trickster hero

7 Beowulf - a hero with hidden depths

9 Robin Hood - the outlaw hero

11 Robinson Crusoe - a lone survivor

12 Elizabeth Bennet - a proper pride

17 Dracula - the allure of the monster

20 Winston Smith - the hero we never want to be

22 Fairy-Tale Heroines - new style princesses


Chose these to study the range of types. To me, a 'hero' is someone who risk
their own life to help others. Using that definition, some of the heroes in the
lectures are not heroes. I believe they are using 'hero' as a synonym for
protagonist. "Protagonists and Legends" doesn't stir as well.

OTOH, the course's sub-title is "The Most Influential Characters of Literature"


TOPIC!

Who is/are the influential television characters in the different genres?

- Police Procedural
- Mystery
- Doctor/Hospital
- Science Fiction/Fantasy
- Western (remember westerns? could a western work today? - oh wait, there have
been at least two - Deadwood and that one with the railroad - but both
are cable, yes?)
- Law
- Family, e.g. The Waltons, Seventh Heaven. Gilmore girls, etc.


Prompt: Which is more important in shaping a genre, the founding story or
paradigm shift stories, example: Adam-12 vs. Hill Street Blues?



WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed Jul 20 22:52:04 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Repeating my answer from the last time, Newark Tool.


Maverick


Georgy Girl




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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 20 22:26:13 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Werewolf123,

I doubt iZombie was pitched with Liv as a flatworm. *g*


DaddyCatALSO,

We'll have to ask Christopher Marlowe what she meant. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 20 21:30:49 2016 70.198.5.255) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia answer to be done later than
usual...in a board meeting!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jul 20 21:01:01 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
For the record, I still haven't forgiven FOX for killing Wonderfalls.

Jerks!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jul 20 20:56:01 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: More often what happens to me is the opposite: I actually start watching a show, and start to like it and then it gets cancelled!

:-(



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 20 16:47:05 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Yay me!!!

deadguy qod

I'm not sure I've ever watched a single episode and said never again. I have watched several episodes of a new series and then drop it, like Fear the Walking Dead.


Happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Jul 20 14:54:17 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Camden Toy



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jul 20 14:48:49 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What actor played the Prince of Lies on Angel?



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Jul 20 14:48:31 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - former Pittsburgh-area resident, Camden Toy.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jul 20 14:33:49 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What actor played the Prince of Lies on Angel?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Jul 20 14:33:06 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I think Christopher Marlowe is referring to the praise demons like D'Hoffryn had for Willow's dermectomizing activity.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jul 20 13:57:55 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Deadguy Question: I can say a resounding YES! to that question.

Mrs. Cooper and I were big fans of Hell's Kitchen, that show with Gordon Ramsey. I usually hate "reality" shows and avoid them like the plague, but my wife and I did get caught up in HK, which was fun to watch.

Anyway, just in case you aren't familiar, in this show a dozen chefs compete by cooking in a real restaurant and completing stressful challenges, and after each show one or two who can't cut it are kicked off. In the end, the last one standing is given a job at a prestigious restaurant.

One season, they had this complete incompetent dingbat on. It was obvious the dingbat should have been kicked off on day one, she screwed up time after time, she whined constantly and her attitude sucked. But for some reason Ramsey kept her on show after show. We figured it was for the ratings value.

Anyway, beyond all reason the dingbat made it to be one of the final two chefs. The other chef of the two was very competent, sharp, hardworking and humble...not to mention very good at cooking and managing the stressful kitchen. He had a great backstory too.

So at the final dramatic moment, Ramsey chose........... THE WHINY DINGBAT! I just about threw my remote at the TV.

It was ridiculous, and so unfair. We never watched that show again.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jul 20 11:49:19 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for christopher marlowe!

yay christopher marlowe!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale t.v. - we like re-runs cause they're safe

did you ever watch an episode (of any show you liked) and say I'll never watch again? and did you never watch again?


Happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Jul 20 11:46:48 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, July 20th 2016 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Circa
Vanessa#2*


Happy Birthday from the Bronze to Circa, Vanessa#2




Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey! Xander, 'Buffy vs Dracula'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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werewolf 123 says:
(Wed Jul 20 09:55:29 2016 68.12.75.136) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard: Liv is a flatworm a Planeria. The liv goes in the liv goes out, in the brain case and out the mouth.
Does Liv as a vampire grow fangs.Or is that only a function of the D-man?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 20 08:08:53 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

In the show the eaten brain is almost always the murdered victim. If iZombie were a straight procedural, then Liv would only get the memories - partial - which would be used to solve the case. But it's not a procedural, Liv takes on the personality of the victim. She's still Liv, but with some of the traits of the victim. If the victim was a kleptomaniac, then Liv is going to start nicking stuff.

This lets the writer, actor, and director expand the story. It also allows more opportunities for looking at life and developing arcs and telling the season story.

Your opportunity is the eaten brain creates new problems or opportunities in your iZ-BtVS cross-over. If you, as the writer, were not trying to end the series by successfully curing Liv, then what would you be using the story to do?

Since you're focused on Liv, then how does putting her in the buffyverse help create a story or advance an existing one?

Season 2: The overall story had at least three sub-plots:

1) Figuring out what Max Rager was doing and stopping them.

2) Dealing with the Seattle crime-lord.

3) Character relationship development: Liv-Major, Liv-Clive, etc.


Season 3 will begin with the cliff-hanger of season two

SPOILER iZombie Season Finale

((There's a group of zombies who are still able to think and feel as humans who are going to take over Seattle and they put Liv on the spot - join us or die.))


Anyway, returning to your story ...

There is a cure, but it part it involves Liv becoming a vampire for a set period of time. Dawn has taken Liv to Cleveland to do take the cure / do the spell. Dawn has gone out to get spell-stuff, leaving Liv in the safe-house. Liv dines on brains found in fridge.

What sort of personalities would mix well, or not-so-well when Liv becomes a vampire?

How will that personality affect your plot? Insomuch as plot is 'simply' the actions of the characters, then Liv's personality addition will be a major driver of the plot.

So it returns to the traditional structure:

CHARACTER: Liv

DESIRE: Be Human

OBSTACLE: Cure complications

OBSTACLE(S)/TWIST: The personality of the person's brain she eats.

If you don't yet know how you want the story to end, then experiment with some personalities and see where the might lead.

More complications: How does all of this affect the scoobies?



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 20 04:23:20 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard One Tree Hill would be less soapish. *g* I might try to work in that suggestion you made earlier about Liv eating the brains of someone unusual.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 20 03:50:22 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I could have watched the RNC, but instead watched first season episodes of One Tree Hill. *g*


..."She flayed a man alive, that was water-cooler talk in the underworld"...

Dawn didn't pick this up from gossip. Dawn heard it from Buffy and Xander shortly after it happened. Is there a reason Dawn is sourcing it as gossip?

Also, Liv is always show incorporating pieces of brain as ingredients in a recipe which she is shown preparing (also as close-up's of her hands preparing the meal - rapid series of shots).

Also II, Liv would probably want to know something about the person whose brain she was going to eat, because she's going to take on aspects of the personality. Doesn't the FDA require the WC to label brains? *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 20 02:06:31 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Before, a coven of fellow witches, these days Willow is the enforcer"

"Ah, she didn't seem that tough", Liv said, thinking back when she met Willow.

"She flayed a man alive, that was water-cooler talk in the underworld"

"Um, I hope to never see that side of her"

"Anyhow..I'll pick you up tomorrow for the airport at 6 am."
"Why so early?"

"Ill be preparing some of the things we'll need, Hilary will have the rest"

"Ok, see you tomorrow then"

The next day, they landed in Cleveland and took a rental car to the house that the Watcher's Council rents on a regular basis to their members. Cleveland was a frequent destination for a variety of reasons and it was cheaper to rent a house that pay for hotel.

It was pretty Spartan, but well kept and well stocked. Because they got in early, it was decided that Liv would rest up and Dawn would finish up whatever she needed to get done.

"Will you be ok?" Dawn asked,
before picking up her bag to go out.

"Yeah, I'll be fine. I won't open the door to strangers" Liv said with a smile.

Liv waved Dawn out and she headed back to the kitchen.

She was a bit surprised to find out that it was stocked with several containers of brains. She wasn't sure how the Watcher's Council managed to have supply on hand on such short notice, but she wasn't sure she wanted to know.

She picked a random container and sat at the kitchen table. No seasoning available, but she could do without for a while.

It also may technically be her 'last meal' should this human by way of vampire thing worked. She chewed thoughtfully, worried that she was moving to fast or that this was a dumb decision. Did she really understand the consequences?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 20 00:30:44 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Not sure I want to watch the Democrat convention either.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 19 23:20:57 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Looks like Trump is formally nominated. It still seems a bit unreal.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 19 22:51:19 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
home!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jul 19 22:02:57 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: buffy
Question: Where was the Seal of Danzalthar located?
Answer: Under sunnydale High

Trivia On the Ball: notsoShyGirl, OldManFan
Trivia Behind the Ball: Maverick, AGent Cooper



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jul 19 20:50:24 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Two miles away from the Seal of Danthalzar's wife's mother.


There's a new "Star Trek" coming out this Friday, "Star Trek Beyond."


Also out this Friday, July 22nd is Dinesh D'Souza's new Documentary "Hillary's America: Secret History of the Democratic Party." This is the follow-up to "2016: Obama's America" (made in 2011), and "America: Imagine The World Without Her" which came out in 2015. Watch "America" on Netflix, etc., if you can't get out to the Movie Theater to see "Hillary's America."


Maverick


Exodus




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jul 19 19:30:23 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Just found out there are Maoist rebels in northeastern India



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jul 19 18:05:48 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: I don't know, but that's a "Nantucket" rhyme waiting to happen.

Daddycatalso: Oh, I didn't know that. Cuz I didn't see the movie. :-)



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KAM says:
(Tue Jul 19 17:58:53 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Jul 19 18:23:31 2016
Good Morning Everyone,

I'm not gonna bother engaging morons on the internet, but I find it a little ironic...or perhaps just moronic that people who are constantly parroting talking points being upset about "plagiarism." Yeah, when you have an original thought, you can start to complain, you twits.

ALSO...ever think that the "brilliant" speeches handed to people are really just general platitudes...hence pretty much the same.
Of course, they wet themselves when someone they like says it, and grumble when someone they don't like does.

I've got similar interest in Mrs. Trump and Mrs. Obama...which is to say very little.

STILL--all that said...underscores just how pathetically stupid the leeches that suck money from campaigns are. Stupid move to NOT have caught this.

KAM



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 19 17:54:18 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan Notsoshygirl has been on a roll for years. *g*



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jul 19 16:56:59 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper Michael Jackson only sang the theme song, he wasn't in the movie.



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Jul 19 16:44:45 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - notsoShyGirl is on the ball as usual.

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Jul 19 14:57:18 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
It is located over the Hellmouth and was discovered in the basement of the
rebuilt Sunnydale High School



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jul 19 14:52:09 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: buffy
Question: Where was the Seal of Danzalthar located?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Jul 19 13:16:52 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday July 19th 2016 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


AuntiAm
Bibbikinz
Bronze-Age Betty
Lady Ireland
Maldwyn


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
AuntiAm, Bibbikinz, Bronze-Age Betty, Lady Ireland, Maldwyn




Oh, smacked in the noggin with a 2x4 wrapped in velvet. Yeah, that's what it felt like.
Lorne, 'Release''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 19 13:04:20 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay muffy the vampire annoyer!

deadguy qod

Oh tons! I would want to meet just about everyone!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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KAM says:
(Tue Jul 19 12:41:02 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY MUFFY

Deadguy QOD
: I'm sure there are people who were regulars at the Bronze, who didn't make it to any gatherings and perhaps faded away like many others. Can't really name one specifically over another.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jul 19 11:59:36 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for muffy the vampire annoyer

yay muffy the vampire annoyer!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

posting boards - obsolete media at its finest

having visited some bronzers this past weekend, are there any posters you haven't met that you wish you would have met?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 19 03:33:32 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Well-behaved
witches don't summon an ancient
temple under Sunnydale. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 19 02:32:50 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Just read an article on how different countries handle student loans. Here's how
Australia does it ...

1. A student takes out the loan.

2. Until the student is making $40,000 a year, they do not make any payments.

3. Once a student reaches $40,000 a year, 4% is deducted from each paycheck (I don't
know if this 4% of gross or net income). Whatever the student earns above $40,000
becomes subject to the 4% deduction. This continues until the loan is paid-off.

4. If the student's income falls below $40,000/year, then the deductions stop. Once
the student's income rises to 40,000 or above, then the deduction at 4% resumes.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 19 01:14:23 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Your characters can be how every you want them to be. *g* But, our writing usually
reflects our worldview, especially if we're not aware we have one. For instance, so
far as I have seen, Joss sees military institutions in one light. Some research and
he might modify that view, but as joss has said, ~ research is for wimps. *g*

How should good witches behave?

Off that, well-behaved women don't make history.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 19 00:58:54 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard LOL! I'll try to be more libertarian in my story. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 19 00:07:36 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

If that aspect of your story had
been an element in an episode, then
I retro-cast (forecast looking
backward) the following posts or
debates.

- Wicce/Wicca doesn't have a global
hierarchical structure (though
there are very likely power
squabbles within covens).

- Who is Willow to be telling other
witches what they can and cannot
do?

- Typical Hollywood writer, *g*,
wanting to tell other people how
they can live their lives. Really,
why shouldn't a person be able to
use their talents as they see fit?

Well we have laws saying what
people can and cannot do. You can't
yell fire in a theater.

Yeah, but liberal hollywood
immediately thinks someone should
be in charge. I mean - it's alright
to make a living with your magic
but not become "wealthy"? Who
decides what's a living and what's
too much? What about the minimum
wage/magick?


- Aleister Crowley said magick is ~
the exercise of will. So there are
going to be limits on the exercise
of will?


And so so. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 18 23:48:24 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I write what seems to make sense at the time I write it. *g* Hopefully more tonight, if the power holds out. Major storm is descending upon ut.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jul 18 21:39:07 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: What was the name of the bear on Grizzly Adams?
Answer: Ben

Trivia Bearish: notsoShyGirl, OldManFan, Maverick (close enuf)!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jul 18 20:50:13 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Story moving forward. That said ....

"...While it's okay for witches to make a living with spells, using magic to
become wealthy is taboo"


And Willow is the "enforcer"?! So Fascist. *g*

It's the buffyverse and it's your take on the buffyverse, still. The 'Old Religion"
is not like the Catholic Church. There may be mores followed by most, but there are
no inquisitors riding the circuit of covens. *g*

In fact, a novel or three exploring such a premise may have a market. Not certain,
since I don't follow the genre.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jul 18 20:28:27 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
I never saw that movie about the spooky rats with Michael Jackson.

But as a kid I did read Rats of NIMH. Also saw the cartoon. What a great story!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Jul 18 19:55:34 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan
I agree with Maverick *g*



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Maverick says:
(Mon Jul 18 19:50:01 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]




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Maverick says:
(Mon Jul 18 18:56:43 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: No, Ben was Michael Jackson's pet rat. The Grizzly bear was Benjamin Franklin.


Black Fathers Matter. Who is trying to solve this problem, Democrats or Republicans? Seriously.


Maverick


Layla




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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jul 18 17:40:47 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl:

Gentle Ben!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 18 17:14:10 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan, notsoShyGirl I, too, question the veracity of a Gentle Ben. *g*



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Jul 18 17:00:52 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
notsoShyGirl - was he, or was he not, gentle? That's all I'm sayin'.

*g

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Jul 18 15:32:19 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Ben

OldManFan
Gentle Ben was a TV series that ran from 1967 - 1969, starring Dennis Weaver,
Clint Howard, Beth Brickell and Bruno the bear.

It waw about he adventures in the Florida Everglades of a game warden, Tom
Wedloe, his wife Ellen, their son Mark, and Mark's tame bear Ben.



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Jul 18 14:49:12 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Gentle Ben.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jul 18 14:44:27 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: What was the name of the bear on Grizzly Adams?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jul 18 13:21:50 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, July 18th 2016 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Cobby
Elerie Megan
Lisl Fox
Morrigan
Nansi Elin
SlayerGemUK
WillowBBF
XERO


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Cobby, Elerie Megan, Lisl Fox, Morrigan
Nansi Elin, SlayerGemUK, WillowBBF, XERO




This is a time of celebration, so sit still and be quiet.Snyder, 'Graduation Day (2)''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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KAM says:
(Mon Jul 18 13:06:31 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY HELLO CUTIE

KAM
Ty King Fan



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 18 13:05:35 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay hello cutie!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Jul 18 11:54:59 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for hello cutie!

yay hello cutie!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Jul 18 11:48:59 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick It's already quite common to s ee a woman in some form of Muslim garb on a sidewalk.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 18 02:19:02 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
slow weekend!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jul 17 23:17:44 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Back! Not the best movie I've ever seen, but it was alright.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jul 17 18:33:37 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Fixed! Now to go see Ghostbusters.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jul 17 16:10:33 2016 70.198.35.213) [Edit/Delete]
Dogmeat

Good catch!! I will have to fix it
when I get home!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sun Jul 17 14:29:12 2016 72.226.63.219) [Edit/Delete]
Dear TheBirthdayGnomette It's July?



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Slayed Soul says:
(Sun Jul 17 13:22:16 2016 173.177.24.94) [Edit/Delete]
Thanks for the birthday shoutouts my
sweet bronzer friends. Thought a lot about
this place when I saw Eliza Dushku at the
Montreal Comiccon last week. Reminded
me of the great community we have.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Jul 17 12:46:53 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Jul 17 18:01:07 2016
Today is Sunday, July 17th 2016 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Old One's Oldest
Slayed Soul


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Old One's Oldest, Slayed Soul




Fred: The size and depth of the wound indicate a female vampire. Harmony: Or gay! Fred: Umit doesn't really work like that.'Harm's Way''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jul 17 05:41:25 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Late Night Drive-By

Christopher Marlowe,

Noted additions to your story. Will read and ponder tomorrow. :)


The Toddlers Creed

If I want it, it's mine.
If I give it to you and I change my mind later, it's mine.
If I can take it away from you, it's mine.
If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
If it's mine, it will never belong to anybody else, no matter what.
If we are building something together, all the pieces are mine.
If it looks like mine, it is mine. - Anon

*G*


South China Sea Timeline

Begins ~1955 and appears to have been last updated in 2013. Few noted events until 1990s with events in 00's.



WG



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Maverick says:
(Sun Jul 17 03:10:15 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica: Well, there's all kinds of scariness involved there. I'm not certain my post-Bachelor's in Computer Science qualified me to have an opinion, but I DID use various computer systems as a construction controller. Just like some guy nicknamed Guccifer from Romania looked at Hillary's e-mails (no question that the vulnerabilities she allowed to exist so she could fake being Secretary of State, hurt the U.S. government,) some people are awfully good at determining vulnerabilities in these systems. There's many more people who can read what's on someone else's system than can actually change stuff on their system. The persons who originally created the programs, however, probably always left some back door so they could later change things quickly while they were debugging the program. Some people, subsequently, seem to have a facility for finding these back doors, etc. Oftentimes, the original people left instructions for changing the programs and left passwords, etc., to access them. People then come and go and or get fired, etc., and no one changes the passwords, etc., or knows enough to change them all. Perhaps someone who used to work there can still get in or can sell the passwords to other interested parties. Probably most vulnerabilities result from laziness with handling passwords and failure to change them often. I'm sure there are some people who can get onto various platforms that are running the programs and can jump into the program, kind of like crossing the blood-brain barrier in a human, but the knowledge and time and risk involved make it far more likely that someone has just mishandled passwords.


Maverick


Theme from "The Deer Hunter"




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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Jul 17 01:54:13 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--I wonder how likely
it is that someone could, in real
life, do what Mr. Robot does?
Because yes, it is very scary!


Happy Birthday AussieBullDog!


Happy Belated Birthday Kiba
Rika
and Petrona!


Belated Yay! dianne!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 16 22:27:59 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
"Cleveland? Seriously?" Liv said,
when she heard where she and Dawn
were going.

"Don't laugh, the Hellmouth near
Cleveland is nothing to sneeze at.
" Dawn said, trying to fight off a
laugh herself.

"What's a hellmouth exactly?" Liv
said "Buffy and the others
mentioned one near Sunnydale.

"Hellmouths are 'hot spots' of
supernatural energy. They attract
demons, vampires" Dawn said,
pointing to the screen of her
iPhone.

Liv could see various points across
the map of the United States, with
Cleveland being one of the brighter
spots.


"Is that why we are going there?"

"Partly. While Sunnydale attracted
a lot of activity, Clevelend is a
bit different"

"Yeah"?

"The hellmouth under Cleveland has
multiple small portals that
generate the kind of energy that
attract witches"

"Yeah? Why isn't Willow coming
with us?"

"Willow really doesn't like to be
near portals like that. She's
permanently connected to them
already:"

"Gotcha, she already told me a
little about that. "

"Here is the spell we are going to
do". Dawn said, handing a parchment
paper to Liv.

Liv took it carefully. It was a
single sheet of very old, but
rather sturdy paper. It felt a bit
weird, but Liv wasn't sure she
wanted to ask about that. At
first, she didn't recognize the
letters, until Dawn muttered
something under her breath and the
letters morphed, shaping into
something more recognizable.
Liv saw a list a of ingredients,
most of which she didn't think was
possible. Mote from the eye of
a rat in a cemetary
. What was
more frightening was the
instructions. Apparently Liv has
to be hit with a bolt of mystical
lightening to activate the
components that she appear to
either eat, smoke or slather on
her, depending on the substance.
"And you said this requires a
witch??"

"Yes, I thought it would be
difficult to find one who would be
willing to do this, but since
you're a zombie"

"Go me, I guess?"

"Probably because this spell is
intended for demons wanting to
become human"

"Okay, I can see why now"

"At least we don't have to go to
some crypt at midnight"

"So where will it be done?"

Dawn looked at her iPhone,
"Hilary's House of Hair, a beauty
salon"

"I guess she does the other stuff
on the side"

"While it's okay for witches to
make a living with spells, using
magic to become wealthy is taboo"

"How do they enforce it ?"

"Before, a coven of fellow witches,
these days Willow is the enforcer"
"Ah"



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Maverick says:
(Sat Jul 16 19:57:23 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Over a certain period of time, Islam, "the Religion of Peace," inflicted 1,274 attacks, in 50 countries, killing 11,774 people, and injuring 14,303 people. Can you guess over what period of time this has happened? Answer: HERE


lostinamerica, Christopher Marlowe: I watched the DVD's of Season One of "Mr. Robot" and I have VERY mixed feelings about it. It, of course, scared me to think that so many ugly-minded people have access to such a flimsily-structured system of maintaining the records of the world's businesses and governments. It would be worthwhile to rethink these systems and start over before it's too late, as it's just a matter of time until someone (like Obama) decides, arbitrarily to our way of thinking, it's time to punish the successful and reward the slothful because the successful had unfair advantages, despite ignored evidence to the contrary. On some level, I DID like it, though, because it serves as a warning. (However, now warned, I don't think I want to spend any more time with these twist-tie-minded people.) Note the Arab/Muslim references in this series. The creator and writer, Sam Esmail, is Egyptian (I don't know if he is Muslim,) and one of his intelligent characters is a hijab-wearing girl (obviously Muslim) who "seems" to move alone and uninhibited through American society; the contradiction is obvious and predicts a (future?) break of some kind. Once again, it seems, we are naively sewing the seeds of our own destruction.


"MANH(A)TTAN" (I think the "A" stands for Atomic Bomb) is a wonderful Los Alamos soap opera, but it, unfortunately, is not even ANYWHERE near historically accurate, so I have REALLY mixed feeling about it. I like the subject matter and some of the storylines, but I hate that I know it's going to mix-up my understanding of the actual history of the development of the Atomic Bomb.


Maverick


You Don't Own Me




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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Jul 16 15:23:46 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, June 16th 2016 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


AussieBulldog
davidboreanazishot
Im Kid
Ranna
Vviolet's daughter


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
ABD, davidboreanazishot, I'm Kid, Ranna Vviolet's daughter




Whoa. Good myth. Wash, 'Our Mrs. Reynolds'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 16 13:19:24 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
good morning beta!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 16 03:54:56 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I'll do some more writing and at least get something up Saturday might.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Sat Jul 16 03:33:45 2016 74.76.189.4) [Edit/Delete]
So from what I can tell, the Turkish army are the
good guys. Erdogan and his govt are the bad
guys. Not clear yet who is winning.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 16 02:28:56 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wofguard I would agree, a lot has happened/will happen in such a short period of time.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jul 16 02:13:38 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Been reading twitter feeds from/on Turkey. One person posted ...

"There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen."

The quotations are in the original post, but quote not attributed.


I can't recall ever watching a convention.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 16 00:58:32 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfgaurd Are you planning on watching the GOP convention?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 16 00:31:01 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfgaurd Are you hereabouts?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 15 23:19:12 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
AGent Cooper Attempted coup, it looks like. Not that that's much better than an actual one.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 15 22:58:20 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
home!!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 15 20:42:04 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Annnd apparently there's military coup going on in Turkey right now.

2016, The Best Year Ever! TM continues....



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 15 20:30:29 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: I still have a case full of old cassettes. I used to have tons of these, but I got rid of most of them years ago.

I kept a few because they have such sentimental value to me, even though I don't even have a way to play them anymore.

I also have quite a few CDs, and it looks like they will be obsolete soon as well. Fortunately I've uploaded most of my favorites to my Ipod. :-)



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Maverick says:
(Fri Jul 15 19:23:18 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Jul 15 21:58:06 2016
Trivia Girl: Pugsley.


Agent Cooper: I still have an answering machine with a mini tape in it. I'm old enough to have talked on a phone on a party line. I also still use the inputs and outputs on an old 8-Track player as an amplifier for my TV wraparound sound. I also once worked at Western Electric in Tonawanda, N.Y. where I met a girl I married (and subsequently annulled.)


What's all this about a nice terrorist attack in France where the Muhammad Muslim guy used a truck? What was so nice about it? (okay, being silly--I know it was Nice.) Sounds like something Emily Litella (Gilda Radner) might say. "Never mind."


Maverick


Young Hearts Run Free




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Jul 15 19:19:09 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe Agent Cooper rotary phones; still one in my room. Have owned them, also, I think; I know in Philly I always had Trimlines, but in "Nawfik" I had a full-sized phone, but it might have been Touchtoen anyway.
Cassette tapes do deteriorate with time, so those might be unplayable by now, depending.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 15 19:15:24 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper I remember using (if not owning) a rotary phone. I still have cassettes of music, ha!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jul 15 17:33:03 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Well, that's all wonderfully insightful speculation. But let's see what actually happens in the real world.

Or on the other hand, let's not. :-)

Chris Marlowe: I'm old enough to have actually used a rotary dial phone. And an answering machine with an itty bitty cassette tape in it. Heh. Remember those?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Jul 15 14:52:37 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Heres a whole bunch of telephone trivia:

In Japan, Western Electric first sold equipment in 1890, then in 1899 helped form the Nippon Electric Company (NEC). This was Japans first joint venture with an American firm.

The use of telephone answering machines became popular in 1974.

In the first month of the Bell Telephone Companys existence in 1877, only six telephones were sold!

On December 23, 1947, Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, N.J., held a secret demonstration of the transistor which marked the foundation of modern electronics.

In 1953, Sony Corporation obtained a transistor license from Western Electric Co. that led to its development of the worlds first commercially successful transistor radio.

In the early days of the telephone, operators would pick up a call and use the phrase, Well, are you there?. It wasnt until 1895 that someone suggested answering the phone with the phrase number please?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Jul 15 13:18:01 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, July 15th
4th 2016 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!

Angelusz
BuffyIsDaBomb
Chris Golden
Chrisa
WB Watcher
Rainbow Connection: son of Lunacy &
Petrona
Zygy


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Angelusz, BuffyIsDaBomb, Chris
Golden
Chrisa, WB Watcher, Rainbow
Connection, Zygy




Whoa. Good myth.Wash, 'Our Mrs.
Reynolds'


to be added to the birthday list,
please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 15 13:02:37 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay dianne!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Jul 15 12:24:45 2016 74.98.205.68) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Jul 15 12:25:07 2016
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dianne!

yay dianne!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 15 01:57:34 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
and home again and in for the night.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 15 00:58:47 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
home, but not for long...got to hit the treadmill tonight!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 14 22:30:41 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
off to have dinner with a friend tonight!



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werewolf123 says:
(Thu Jul 14 22:07:00 2016 68.12.75.136) [Edit/Delete]
Nice France, Ban the juggernaut!!!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jul 14 21:56:53 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Movies
Question: What movie first featured robots named R2D2 or C-3PO?
Answer: Star Wars

Trivia Jedis: notSoShyGirl, OldManFan
Trivia Solos: Agent Cooper, Maverick



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 14 21:06:02 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Follows are the southeast regional players with nutshell summary of their, more
or less, statuses:

TAIWAN: We're China. It's ours.

VIETNAM: We hate the Chinese. We have fought them at land and sea (kicked their
arse on land (1979) lost ship(s) in battle (c 1974).

In the past year or so, China moved offshore oil exploration into Vietnamese
waters (Vietnam & probably UNCLOS perspective). Vietnam has ordered submarines,
fast attack craft (FAC), and maybe some frigates. Vietnam and US have discussed
latter having access to Cam Ranh Bay (may have done it). Essentially, Vietnam
might well fight.

MALAYSIA: Almost no knowledge on their stance; however, they're probably buying
ships and aircraft.

SINGAPORE: Seriously concerned about China. One of the best military forces in
the region, albeit it small.

INDONESIA: Until recently they thought they were too far beyond China and as
they read China's 9-dash claim concluded they were outside it. In the past
couple years China has made claims to an island Indonesia sees as theirs.
Working on building their naval and air forces, but so may other problems and so
little resources.

AUSTRALIA: Politically is worried about China, but economically is dependent on
trade with China. Best navy and air force in southeast Asia.

PHILIPPINES: Screwed. China has been doing as it pleases with the Philippines.
The new Philippine president, who fancies himself a tough guy, on the eve of the
court ruling said China and the Philippines could work out some of joint
development deal (in Filipino waters).

BRUNEI: Too small for China to care a wit about. Could be experiencing political
succession problems (Sultan aging).

ASEAN is the regional forum, but it's operating rule is do nothing that ruffles
anyone's feathers, especially China's. Anyway, China prefers doing bilateral
negotiations.


Essentially, there is no southeast Asian navy that can compete successfully with
China's navy (PLAN). Australia's sub forces might wreck havoc, but would
Australia want to risk escalation? Would China expand the battlespace?


I'm not going to try summarizing Japan's position. South Korea would probably
sit out fighting in the south. Not their problem and China is so close and also
major trade partner.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 14 19:06:54 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: What I mean by that is, I read the article and how the games played out. But they seemed very one dimensional in that they completely ignored the rest of the world. It was as if they were playing Risk with 3 players.

When I posted the article I read this morning, I was trying to illustrate that there are plenty of other countries with a stake in what happens in that region of the world, many of which have plenty of skin in the game of making sure China doesn't engulf them.

Between all of these other countries there's plenty of maneuvering going on behind the scenes that would affect any confrontation, all of them constantly making moves which we don't know about.

The wargame scenario totally ignored this fact, operating as if Japan, China and the US were the only countries in the world.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 14 18:22:15 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Jul 14 18:51:22 2016
Agent Cooper,

Not sure which wargame you believe might be a ~bit too simplified. The nuclear war games were conducted by the Department of Defense. I believe they were likely as sophisticated as experience and money could make them.

The other game was much more simple, being one set-up by a professional to be played by some journalists from Foreign Policy magazine. I did not say much about the outcomes of that game, but posted search terms for finding the article. Here's the article ...

How FP stumbled into a war with China and lost (Foreign Policy)

This game explores how a war might erupt between Japan and China and how the US might get involved and what might be the outcome.

Your post referenced events happening in the South China Sea, possibly following the court decision on 12 July and China's response to same.

I've been following events in the South China Sea since the early 90's. Everyday the the US Naval Institute's daily news update appears in my email box. Here's a recent article (China and SCS).

I would love to find a "war"-game dealing with how competition might escalate to a shooting war and how both the participants and interested observers would react. We've seen jamming, ramming, boardings, water cannons, and blockades. It's completely feasible that someone from on high will miscalculate or someone on the scene will take matters into their own hands and BOOM.

If China sinks a Filipino ship by "kinetic action" (mine, torp, shell, missile) how will the US act? If a Chinese ship sinks by mine who will they suspect? Who will they act against?

One relatively predictable behavior in such situations is how decision-makers try to threat the needle between maintaining credibility and braking escalation. The problem is the eye of the needle is small, it moves, and the room is dark.


WF



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 14 18:19:07 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: Ah! I know that pain all too well...

Trivia Girl: Battlestar Galactica!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Jul 14 18:00:36 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Hardware Wars. See the trailer here, if you've never see it.


Maverick


Where Do You Go?




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OldManFan says:
(Thu Jul 14 17:12:52 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - in the George Lucas re-written history world the movie was called A New Hope or, sometimes, Star Wars episode IV, A New Hope.

OMF



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Jul 14 16:57:23 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper wolfguard Well I guess an EA-18 was inevitable.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Jul 14 16:12:39 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Star Wars



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jul 14 15:53:04 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Apologies for the lateness, got trapped into having a new employee looking over my shoulder.

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Movies
Question: What movie first featured robots named R2D2 or C-3PO?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Jul 14 13:18:02 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, July 14th 2016 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Dead Still Pretty (DSP)
Kiba Rika
redruM
Robin_the Snowshoe Hare


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Dead Still Pretty (DSP), Kiba Rika, redruM, Robin TSH




Hey, man, where are my pants? I have my hippo dignity!Oz, 'What's My Line? (2)''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 14 13:04:14 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay dirtysocks!



Happy CD Thursday!



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KAM says:
(Thu Jul 14 13:03:45 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY DIRTY SOCKS

KAM
Ty King Fan



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Jul 14 13:03:08 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Belated Birthday ChristopherMarlowe! What did you do on your big day?


Happy Belated Birthday Hollyn!


Yay! Dirty Socks!


Belated Yay! Cashmere!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 14 12:50:26 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: I think those wargames may be a bit too simplified. There's alot of other factors in play here, and probably alot happening we don't know about behind the scenes.

For example, I found this posted online this morning:

"On Wednesday, a temporary detachment of four US Navy EA-18G Growlers deployed to the Philippines. According to Pacific Command, the aircraft will engage in bilateral training with Philippine Air Force pilots and "will support routine operations that enhance regional maritime domain awareness and assure access to the air and maritime domains in accordance with international law."

This deployment follows on the heels of a recent US Air Force detachment of five A-10 Warthogs. These temporary air contingents were established in the wake of the Philippine Supreme Court's final approval of the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) and the identification of five bases to which US forces would newly gain access.
...Taken together, the Warthog and Growler deployments in the Philippines send an important message to China: Your Spratly possessions are vulnerable. We can blind you at will. Should you declare an Air Defense Identification zone, we can make it impossible for you to enforce it."



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Jul 14 11:38:06 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dirtysocks!

yay dirtysocks!



Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 14 02:45:29 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Jul 14 02:47:27 2016
Christopher Marlowe,

Note the show often uses stereotypes. For instance, one murder victim was a frat
boy. After Liv ate his brain she exhibited some of his personality traits which
included party-animal and prankster. There are are hundreds of thousands - if
not millions - of young men who join fraternities. Are they all party animals?

Within the constraints of television writing it may be necessary to use such
stereotypes. It certainly allows for humor. OTOH, the humor is derived from the
stereotypes. Which stereotypes are socially acceptable today and which are not?
For instance, we often see guards as dumb, but the dumb blonde is not so much
allowed anymore. OTOH, we can do the scheming high school mean girl or sorority
girl.

Does society decide this or is more the likes and dislikes of Hollywood writers?

Stepping off the box now. *g*


- Liv visits Buffy, in part searching for cure.
- Buffy tells her Watcher Council folks can be dangerous. Instead, see Dawn.
- Dawn tells Liv there is a cure (possible cure?), but it requires you being a
vampire for a short time.
- Liv shelves that cure for the time being.
- SOMEONE dies under mysterious circumstances and its important to Buffy et al
that they learn who is behind it and why? Can Liv help?

OR SOMEONE dies ... and its important to the Watchers Council that they learn,
etc. Can Liv help? What does Buffy think?

ETA Willow or SOMEONE discovers they need to find something (MacGuffin) and the
only person who knows WHATNOT about this something is a long dead mummy. Good
news - the brain is well preserved. *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 14 02:27:34 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard That's food for thought, if not brains. Hmmm...



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 14 01:19:19 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

That's in line with Liv's character as established in the show's pilot.
Somewhere I recall Olivia being described as a very ambitious intern (though I
didn't that impression in watching the pilot). Becoming a zombie ended her
career, her marriage plans, and dampened her relationships with family. In
helping Clive investigate the murder of an escort, Liv found a new reason for
being.

If you approach story development using the iZombie format, then Liv's
going to eat someone's brain because that person's memories and personality will
help Liv help solve a murder. In the buffyverse, it may not be a murder but some
problem that the dead person's memories or personality help solve.

It could be a watcher or a witch or a rogue demon hunter or some other type of
character one might find involved in slayer stuff. Search for specific
personalities or types that interest you. Try some combinations ...

An autistic witch? Gambler turned demon hunter. Blind watcher. A slayer who use
to be a PhD candidate.

Google 'iZombie episode list' for brief descriptions of how they do it.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 14 00:44:49 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Jul 14 00:48:03 2016
werewolf123,

Did The Day After first air in the early 80's? If so, I saw it but
remember almost none of it. *g*

I once spoke with a man who participated in several DOD wargames. The two things
I remember him saying about the nuclear scenarios ....

1. None of the games saw the players following some sort of incremental play.
Instead, large salvos and usually continuous salvos until no one was left to
fight.

2. An exchange between US/USSR or US/China or USSR/China always/almost always
included the third country also being attacked, because the two combatant
countries did not want the third to be around to take advantage of the
situation after the war.


Off wargames, last night I read an online scenario of what might happen if Japan
and China went to war over those islands in the East China Sea. I'll see if I
can find it.


ETA Google search using "FP stumbled war China". It should be the first result.




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 14 00:37:04 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I think I want Liv's ultimate realization is that regardless of whether the is cured or not, she wants to make a better world.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 13 23:43:18 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Home!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jul 13 21:55:41 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was the werewolf Angel dated in season five?
Answer: Nina

Trivia Alphas: notsoShyGirl, OldManFan
Trivia Betas: Maverick



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werewolf123 says:
(Wed Jul 13 21:35:40 2016 68.12.75.136) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper:
You might want to read "Leader One" by Nevil Shute. Then compare and contrast with the "Last Ship" on T.V..



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werewolf123 says:
(Wed Jul 13 21:29:47 2016 68.12.75.136) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard: A happy ending to an apocalyptic story ? "The day after",it is obvious from the timing that the U.S. initiated a first strike which disrupted the Russian counter attack. The Russian attack was so feeble that they could only blow up Kansas City. That's a win/win happy ending.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 21:26:43 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I've seen the movie, The Postman. A friend who has both read and seen the
story agrees with you on the book being better.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jul 13 20:34:08 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: It's really hard for me to rework something like "On the Beach" and give it a happy ending.

I actually enjoy the genre in general, and I will say that the movies and stories within it that have anything like a happy ending do it by closing on a note of hope for the future. I think that's usually the best you can do with the "post apocolypse/distopian future" thing and still stay true to the genre.

Like, have you ever seen "Book of Eli?" Or read or seen "The Postman?" (the movie is isn't terrible but the book is way better)

If I wrote post apocolyptic story, I think those two would be models for me ending. Yes, the story is brutal and scary, ---but there's a ray of hope for the future.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 20:20:51 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Isn't it. Hard to imagine Hollywood doing a remake of it today, unless they rewrote
it - and then it wouldn't be true to its theme.

What might a happy take on the subject look like?


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jul 13 19:31:45 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: I've seen the "On The Beach" and I wish that I hadn't. It's really, really depressing. I will never watch it again, mostly due to one particularly awful, horrific and disturbing scene. (And honestly, they are ALL awful scenes to watch, really.)

It's one of those things in my life I wish I could un-see.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 18:17:15 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Jul 13 18:42:52 2016
Agent Cooper,

WOW. That's the sort of story only fantasy and science fiction could tell. On the Beach could tell the story of waiting for one's world to end, but not show the lifetime.


DaddyCatALSO,

I remember the trailers for Passion ... Angelus chasing someone down the school hall, a sequence of characters face overlaid with the voiceover ~ someone will die (but I don't believe Jenny's face was shown and I can't recall if one could see it was Jenny being chased. Buffyworld may have the trailer. Going to check.


ETA Buffyworld.com does have the trailer, but the video would not play - file corrupt. :(


WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed Jul 13 17:54:48 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Oz ;-)


Agent Cooper: Those who believe in Reincarnation, etc., believe we live on the earth to be tested and taught by Moral Dilemmas so that we can learn and that each of our lives on earth are like the blink of an eye in God's time frame, much like that STNG episode. Also, each of us gets a shot at Christianity.


Birthday Happies to: Christopher Marlowe


lostinamerica: [sarcasm]well, it sounds like you can't watch it then[/sarcasm] Seriously, you can't find a way around THAT? Each episode, as I explained, involves around 4 separate sessions with continuing characters. You just stop the DVD player between sessions and resume it next time. That reminds me of the phenomenon of all those people who can't Google and who love to ask me questions that can be answered by Google (and will wait for my answer and perhaps never get it, because they don't have the intellectual curiosity to really want the answer, because if they did they WOULD simply Google it.) That's my rant!


Maverick


Incense and Peppermint




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OldManFan says:
(Wed Jul 13 17:46:33 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Jason Biggs' wife (Jenny Mollen aka Nina).

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Jul 13 16:42:26 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Birthday Girl
Nina Ash



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jul 13 14:55:15 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday to Christopher Marlowe! *g*

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was the werewolf Angel dated in season five?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Jul 13 14:08:44 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Birthday happies to Christopher
Marlowe
and Hollyn!!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Jul 13 13:23:34 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, July
13th 2016 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


BronzeBeta.com
Christopher Marlowe
Hollyn
LadyMuck
Spikara
Zophiel


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
BronzeBeta.com, Christopher
Marlowe, Hollyn
LadyMuck, Spikara, Zophiel





Who among us can ignore the
allure of really funny math puns?
Willow, 'Tough Love'


to be added to the birthday list,
please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 13 13:00:31 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay cashmere!

deadguy qod

Does Clem count! I enjoyed him on
Buffy. for Angel, I don't recall
many....probably Gwen, electro-
girl.

Thanks Beldin!

lostinamerica Pokemon Go is
an app you download to your tablet
or phone and when you visit certain
real-life locations, you can find a
Pokemon you can 'capture'. My
neice and her husband apparently
co-run a Pokemon Gym.


Happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jul 13 13:00:21 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Well, a short (and poorly written) synopsis won't do the story justice. But I'll try. It's been a while since I saw the ep too, but here goes:

what happens is, while exploring the universe as per usual, the enterprise encounters an alien probe drifting space. While the crew investigates Capt Picard is hit by a beam of light from the probe and struck unconscious.

He wakes up on a strange planet. He has no memory of his identity, but takes on the persona of a scientist, father and husband of an alien race living on another planet. He lives his life in a small village, playing his beloved flute and later becomes a loving husband and father to his wife and children. Later, it is revealed that the planet is doomed, and try as they might Kamin and the other top scientists can't save it -- they do not possess the level of technology required. The last act of the story follows Picard (or Kamin, his alien name) as he lives out the last part of his life and at the end, follows his desperate but futile efforts to save his planet and his people.

I'll steal the rest from wikipedia:

One day, while playing with his grandson, Kamin is summoned by his adult children to watch the launch of a rocket, which everyone seems to know about except him. As he walks outside into the glaring sunlight, Kamin sees his grown son and daughter, Eline and Batai as young children again. They explain that he has already seen the rocket, just before he came there. Knowing that the planet was doomed, the planet's leaders placed the memories of their culture into a probe and launched it into space, in the hope that it would find someone who could tell others about their species. Picard then realizes the entire context: "Oh, it's me, isn't it?", he says, "I'm the someone...I'm the one it finds."

Picard wakes up on the bridge of the Enterprise to discover that while he perceives many decades have transpired, only 25 minutes have passed. The now inactive probe is brought aboard the Enterprise and the crew finds a small box within it. A somber Riker gives the box to Picard who opens it to find Kamin's flute. Picard, now adept at the instrument, plays the melody he learned during his life as Kamin.

To watch the whole thing is really touching, and deeply sad. It still makes me choke up just to type out the synopsis, especially now that I have a family of my own.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jul 13 12:48:49 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for cashmere!

yay cashmere!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

whedon central casting - obscure no longer

who was the best guest star on either show (one or two episodes)?


Happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Jul 13 12:15:34 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--Each episode is 2 HOURS? That will be a problem--I usually have an
hour I can sit down and watch something, two hours, not so much--the evidence of this
is all the movies I record and never watch :(


abt--Yes, apparently you're getting a "bloody difficult woman" as PM--fun!

cc ChristopherMarlowe


ChristopherMarlowe--What is this Pokemon Go thing, how does it work?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Jul 13 11:52:34 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I guess; that idea just came to me yesterday morning. I just felt when reading it it was made too predictable by having the person who complains the most about theth process ends up the one targeted at the end.

I think my familiarity with spoilers (in this case, form a n ordinary newspaper, I think, the reappearance of Angelus in S-2. Of coruse I kept hoping the spoiler for "Seeign red" were foilers, even after the Canadian feed had goneout!



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Beldin says:
(Wed Jul 13 05:36:12 2016 76.164.74.49) [Edit/Delete]
Happy birthday, Christopher Marlowe!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 05:25:40 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Destiny!

Belated Yay Sweeper!


Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


What, if any, was the worse BtVS/Angel spoiler you heard (and ruined the episode for you)?

Except for first season, I saw every first run episode on videotape (BtVS was the reason I bought a VCR). Still, bronzers were usually very careful posting...

SPOILER ON BTVS

5
4
3
2
1
Buffy cut her hair!
1
2
3
4
5
SPOILER ON BTVS


I only remember two spoilers. The second was simply someone posting ROFLOL!!! at the beginning of Double Meat Palace. I read that and posted, ~ Buffy's uniform? ~ Reply: YES!!! A lucky guess. *g*

The big spoiler happened on May 18, 1999 - Graduation Day 1. Someone posted Faith had died and fallen off a building. I was devastated. Was in total dread watching the entire episode.

I experienced one other "spoiler" caused by the VCR rewind. I had rewound the tape of The Wish and hit 'play'. What appeared was Buffy fighting the Master and having her neck snapped! What!?!


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 03:57:12 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

If the story entertains, it's deep enough. I brought up your HIV/AIDS thought
thinking it might help you develop the story. So long as the series runs, Liv
will likely always be looking for a cure so none of the stories are going to
depend on her finding a real cure - except perhaps for the last ones?

Anyway, if Liv can't find a cure, then what might be hers or the readers'
consolation prize?

Anne - Buffy realizes home is where she belongs - for now.

Dead Man's Party - Friends can be angry with each other so long as they
keep things in perspective.

Faith, Hope, and Trick - You can't keep running. Eventually you got to
make a stand (and that includes Buffy - she decided to quit running from another
potential relationship and go out with Scott)




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 13 03:10:29 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolguard I guess I'm not so sure of my ultimate intent with this story. I don't think the HIV metaphor will work, but I don't know. I haven't really thought of a deeper or overarching meaning to Liv seeking a cure, if not actually getting a cure. I don't think any of the stories I have written have much depth to them.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 02:19:42 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

When I was breaking it out I should have noted what resulted. Here goes ...

Liv talks with Buffy (learning the Watcher's Council cannot be trusted, instead
go see Dawn)

Liv talks with Dawn (learning there is a cure, but it means becoming a vampire,
albeit for a fixed period of time)

Liv talks with Willow (?)

Liv reflects on what she's learned while eating (and decides to take the cure,
to become fangy girl)


For comparison, Phases

First four scenes as I recall ...

TEASER

SCHOOL HALLWAY
Larry and company oggle Willow and Buffy, Oz steps in. Willow and Buffy continue
down hall. Buffy learns current sitch between them and Willow's desire for
smoochies. (also neat shot of Oz studying trophies ~ You notice how
cheerleader's eyes follow you?)

LOVER'S LANE
Xander and Cordelia making out in car. Xander expresses concern about Oz.
Cordelia expresses concern about Xander. Werewolf attacks car.

ACT 1

HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT
Last scene leads to scoobies and Giles discussing previous night's attack. Giles
looks forward to research.

LIBRARY
Giles lectures. Scoobies discuss the beast in man. All leading to ...

LOVER'S LANE
Buffy and Giles patrolling for wolvie.




WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 01:53:39 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

"....Magic appeared to be the only solution, but Willow didn't quite tell
her
everything
...
"

This could be a legitimate scene, but I didn't see it for the backstory
exchange. Do you plan to have Willow's ~secret or 'issues' play a part in the
story?

What's the current plot sequence?

Liv talks with Buffy
Liv talks with Dawn
Liv talks with Willow
Liv reflects on what she's learned while eating?

or the above, but with Liv-Dawn and Liv-Willow scenes reversed?

You have said you want Liv to find a cure. You have said you see associations
between Liv's condition and real-world HIV/AIDS situation. What do you think or
feel about the latter?

An example:

I don't believe in one person being able to change the world - not on a regular
basis.

Therefore while I enjoyed BtVS, I felt the 'one slayer a generation' was not a
recipe for success (unless the hellmouth attracted most of the world's big
bads).

Consequently, I wrote several stories pushing that point, i.e. Buffy needed
friends and allies to perform at her best and beat back the big bads.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 13 01:14:19 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Jul 13 01:15:20 2016
Liv wandered into the kitchen at midnight and opened the refrigerator, looking for the container she left there a day or so ago. She had put a label on it that said 'brains', so no one would accidentally eat it, although it didn't look that appetizing anyways.

She grabbed a bottle of tobasco sauce and smothered it over the brains, she was feeling the need for some extra spice tonight. She thought about what happened in the past week or so, since deciding to spend some time at the slayer hostel and perhaps seek some kind of cure that has proved so hard to find.

She wasn't entirely sure what was behind wanting to do that, but it didn't seem to be that bad idea at the time and she was honestly curious about Buffy and this whole slayer thing.

She enjoyed hanging with the women and girls, it made her feel less weird, and kinda like being in college, but without having to cram for exams. For the most part, the others were nice to her, although some couldn't quite get over a zombie girl in their midst and one kept trying to bronze Liv's skin to make her look a bit more normal-looking. All it did was make her looked like a copper-tinged corpse.

She liked her talk to Willow, but it didn't really help her. Magic appeared to be the only solution, but Willow didn't quite tell her everything, she had to glean more from Xander and Buffy. Liv thought Willow meant well, but Willow still had some issues of her own to deal with.

Visiting Dawn at the Watchers' Council was better, but being told that the only cure was becoming a vampire is something she still wasn't quite ready for.

Trading blood for brains isn't something she was looking for, although from what she understood, vampires can eat and enjoy food. The no sunlight thing wouldn't be much different that what she had now and there were ways around that. And at least you wouldn't be in much danger of infecting someone through sex or touching. You had to do the whole blood exchange thing.

One thing that she wasn't sure of was the status of the human soul, as you lose yours when you become a vampire. Stirring up her meal a little more, she thought that perhaps the trade-offs wouldn't be that hard to bear.

She had Dawn's number and decided she would risk it after all, just continuing on as she was just wasn't enough for her anymore.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jul 13 00:59:44 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Okay, okay. I'll stop faffing about and advance the plot. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 00:28:56 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

That said it's fic, and the delight can be in experiencing how characters from
different verses might interact. If so, the Liv and Willow scene is its own end.

I've be interested in seeing a scene between the two current, contemporary Sherlock
Holmes (BBC's and Elementary).


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 13 00:09:27 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

How does the scene advance your story? The general rule is a scene, either in a
book or a script, either develops the character or advances the plot.
1 Neither Liv nor Willow were 'developed', so the plot was advanced?

In your first story you had Buffy invite Liv to visit (Slayer HQ?). Liv went
because, as I recall, she wanted to get away from Seattle and/or meet the
slayers and/or witches/wizards who might have knowledge that would help her
become human again(?). You've said you want Liv to be cured, so that's her goal.

LIV DESIRES TO BE HUMAN (if Liv just desired not to be a zombie, then there may
be other alternatives)

So Liv goes to visit Buffy, in part, to find a way to become human again.

What's she going to learn? What obstacles arise? Is the story a riddle, mystery,
quest, action-adventure? Is it drama - will Liv have to make a hard choice
between ???

A week or so ago, I linked to an old article where James Marsters talked about
his approach to playing Spike. He also spoke about how Joss approached his
writers. Apparently one prompt Joss used was to ask his writers, ~ What would
you be embarrassed to reveal? Tell us about it.

That said, around third season two, the two writers who wrote Dark Age
(season 2) said Joss asked them to write a story about Giles' dark past. Imagine
all the possibilities inherent in that. *g*


To be fair, I believe you wanted Liv to meet with Dawn. So here's what I recall
...

Scene 1 - Where Liv arrives, talks with Buffy and is corrected on the nature of
the Council.

Scene 2 - Liv encounters Willow where they exchange backstories.

Scene ? - Liv meets Dawn where???


If the story needs an interaction between Liv and Dawn, then it goes

Scene 1 - Liv & Buffy where Liv concludes she needs to see Dawn.

Scene 2 - Liv encounters Dawn

The Liv/Willow make be fun, but what does it add? Not to say you can't add
something or that even you've hidden something important in that scene that will
be revealed later ...



1 A few might add, sets a mood. In the days before photography,
scenes could be used to help readers experience a place.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 23:14:35 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Because she was there? Liv just wandered down a hallway and saw Willow.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 12 23:09:56 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Why did Liv go to see Willow?


DaddyCatALSO,

You're doing the English Lit Professor thing. *g*


Agent Cooper,

I only watched the first season of ST:NG. How did the story go?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 22:24:37 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Liv wallked into the room and now noticed there was more than one book on the table. They looked really old, older than anything she's seen in the library. She wandered over to get a closer look and looked at Willow. Willow nodded, indicating it was okay to touch the book. That was one of the things Buffy first told her when she talked about Willow. "Don't Speak Latin in front of the Books!" Liv didn't know what that meant, but it was clear that some books were dangerous.

Liv looked through the book, but it didn't seem all that interesting. Just lists and pictures of flowers, herbs and other things. She looked up at Willow and she saw Willow flick a finger into the mortar and pestle an whatever she was grinding up looked whole again.

"So..you bring stuff back to life"?

"Plants, yes. If I could do people, I would have resurrected a lot of people a long time ago. Willow said, answering Liv's unspoken question. "Sorry".

"That's Ok I didn't actually realize magic existed until recently" Liv said, with a slight frown. "How long have you been doing it?"

"Pretty much since high school. junior year"

"Yeah?"

"Initially I was the original nerdy, computer girl" Willow said, putting some rose petals in the mortar and pestle and started crushing them".

"No Way! What got you started?" Liv said, slightly off-put by the smell of the petals.

"The murder of a teacher of mine" Willow said with shaky breath.

"Whoa"

"She was looking for a spell, and Buffy's boyfriend, Angel, killed her. "

"Double whoa"

"So when I started recreating my teacher's spell, that was my start. Like most things, there is good and bad aspects to magic and I've done quite a bit of both."
"Bad juju"?

"Yeah, it became sort of a crutch to me, I could make things easier for myself."

"That doesn't sound too bad" Liv said, watching Willow pour a bit of oil in the bowl.

"I does when you start changing people to suit yourself. I did that with my girlfriend"


"How so?"
"When we had an arguement, I would cast a spell to make her forget it" Willow said, taking the oil and petals and put it into a flask to heat up.

"That's..not good"

"Nope, at and some point, the power I felt with magic became like a drug, I couldn't live without it and that led to more badness"

"I don't think I want to know more"

"Good call"

Liv and Willow watched the beaker of oil and petals boil a bit longer and then Willow poured out melted soy wax into a bowl and followed it with the oil/petal mixture. She quickly mixed them up and poured it into a moon-shaped mold to firm up.

"That's just a sample, when it cools, I'll take it back to the coven and see how they liked it."

"What are you going to call it?"

"Shadow Rose, I think sounds dark and lovely all at once. Just like us." Willow said with a smile, removing the apron and putting it on a peg.

Willow turned around and started cleaning things up.

"So, what about you? How'd you become a zombie?" Willow said.

"I was at a boat party and got attacked and fell overboard. When I came to..I was in a body bag."

"Oh wow...I bet you were disoriented", Willow said with sympatheic look on her face.

"To say the least. I figured out later I was a zombie."

"Do you really have to eat brains?"

"Yeah. If I don't eat, I become basically the Night of Living Dead Liv"

"Even worse"

"There is one upside, I guess", Liv said, tracing circles on the table with her finger.

"Really?

"I can sometimes re-experience memories of the people who died"

"How is that an upside?"

"It can help figure out how someone died or who killed them"

"I can see that being useful"

"I also sometimes get to try out new skills, like play drums. Doesn't last though"

Willow took a last swipe of the table with a cloth, and doubled checked that the flasks were all in the right spots.

"You're seeing Dawn soon"?

"Yeah, I don't know how much she will help, I gather the Watcher's Council isn't the greatest"

"Dawnie is awesome!. The rest of them...eh"



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 21:58:54 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Home early!



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jul 12 20:57:42 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper: Sorry, not even close. I was thinking of Red Dishes. Like on a white table cloth. Maybe re-wrap your Swami turban.


Maverick


She Blinded Me With Science




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jul 12 20:38:54 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I'm sure Jackson was doing more than writing a simple horror story in "The Lottery." I think she was riffing on the idea of "those who benefit the most fro ma system a lways squawk the loudest when it scr*ws them." Which to me, made the story *less* compelling



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jul 12 20:01:04 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick: Hmmm...wait, let me see....yes, it's getting clearer now... A-HA!

You are thinking about....

Radishes!

I see a garden salad in your future.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jul 12 19:26:40 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Jul 12 19:32:55 2016
Trivia Girl: Super Staker


lostinamerica: "In Treatment" ran 3 Years on HBO. It's one of those series that benefit greatly from being able to watch on DVD's. Each monthly episode included around 4 (I believe) sessions with his different patients. Each episode lasts around 2 hours. Gabriel Byrne won the Golden Globe Award for his performance as the therapist. Each year the patients change. The psychotherapist also has HIS own session with HIS therapist (played by the incomparable Diane Wiest.) The performances are fabulous.


Agent Cooper: A mind reader, eh? Okay, what am I thinking? How about NOW?


Maverick


You've Got It All Over Him.




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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jul 12 19:10:58 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard, et al: Have you seen the Star Trek NG episode, "The Inner Light" ?

It's a very beautiful and sad story. I found it genuinely moving.

I know what some of you are thinking. But before you laugh, watch it and you'll see.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 12 18:17:26 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan,

Do you have some favorite short stories to add?


DaddyCatALSO,

The Ransom of Red Chief is a hoot. It's probably been done in on screen in some fashion, but it's due an update.


Christopher Marlowe,

I chose those stories, because when one studies them - reverse engineers them - there's the question: how much of the ending did the writer need before starting to write? My takes ...

The Lottery - the surprise ending probably derived straight from the idea.


The Most Dangerous Game - Less so than above, but still there hovering. OTOH, this story might well be altered to fit a different theme.1

Here's its set-up. A traveler aboard a ship is looking at an island when he falls overboard. He's 'saved' by a man who is a devout hunter.


The Ransom of Red Chief

I suspect the idea began when O Henry reflected on rowdy kids. Maybe O Henry was babysitting? *g* God spare me one more minute! From there the story idea.


What does the protagonist want and who or what is in the way? Further, is there something fascinating about the set-up?

The Shallows - the new movie with Blake Lively (?). Another shark story with a twist.


1 The original Star Trek episode, Arena, was based on science fiction short story where one human must fight an alien to determine the outcome of a war. In the short story the man kills the alien and saves humans. The question is how he comes to do it.

In the episode there is major difference based on the writer's beliefs: Kirk wins, but refuses to kill the alien. And as it turns out, this action saves Kirk and his crew. The superior aliens who had forced the contest had lied in saying the winner would live. Instead they intended to kill the winner and his crew because they would be the bigger threat. Kirk's compassion changed their minds.



WG



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Jul 12 16:58:43 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - the same as her runaway name, Anne.

OMF



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jul 12 15:06:41 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Buffy's middle name is monster bashing.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Jul 12 15:00:12 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Anne



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jul 12 14:54:50 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What is Buffy's middle name?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 14:05:06 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
yay destiny!

deadguy qod

I heard a spoiler about Crush that that pretty much crushed any interest I had in the episode.

'nuff said.

Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jul 12 13:46:49 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Deadguy question: I don't think I ever got spoiled for Buffy or Angel. It never occurred to me at the time to seek out spoilers.

Even when I discovered the Bronze, I never did get spoiled here either.

IIRC the few spoiler posts I did read by chance on the Bronze were mostly wild speculation and very few were accurate. And the Bronze community of the time, well, let's just say they aggressively policed spoilers that were left in the open and prosecuted the offenders vigorously.

But then, they were like that with alot of things. :-)



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KAM says:
(Tue Jul 12 13:03:09 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY DESTINY

Deadguy QOD
I stayed pretty much spoiler free, watching when the episode first aired. I didn't go out and look for spoilers, and the Bronze was very good with spoilers.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jul 12 12:31:30 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Oh! My favorite short story is "How Watson Learned the Trick" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

It's online all over. Everybody stop what you're doing and go read it, right now!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Jul 12 12:24:06 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--I've heard of In
Treatment
--it didn't last too long,
did it?


Happy Birthday Gothic Avenger!


Belated Yay! Sweeper!



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Jul 12 12:22:28 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - those are three terrific short stories. The Most Dangerous Game has been made into a movie at least three times and the story has been "borrowed" by tv episodes dozens of times. The Lottery is not far behind.

OMF



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jul 12 12:11:25 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for destiny

yay destiny!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

spoilers, inc. - hey, did you hear...

what, if any, was the worse btvs/angel spoiler you heard (and ruined the episode for you)?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Jul 12 11:49:34 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday July 12th
2016 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


GothicAvenger
Huniebzz
ImTethered
Karrde
LuLu
Rachael
Seska
Slayer#2


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
GothicAvenger, Huniebzz,
ImTethered
Karrde, LuLu, Rachael, Seska,
Slayer#2




Oh! I know this one! 'Slaying
entails certain sacrifices, blah
blah blahbity blah, I'm so stuffy,
gimme a scone.'Buffy, 'Inca Mummy
Girl''


to be added to the birthday list,
please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jul 12 11:49:12 2016 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard ChristopherMarlowe I've heard people mention "The Ransom Of Red Chief," haven't read it (or really any O. Henry,) have read the others.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 11:40:31 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Out of the three,
the Ransom of Red Chief is the only
one I'm familiar with.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 12 03:50:20 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Have you read any of the following short stories?


The Lottery by Shirley Jackson

The Ransom of Red Chief by O. Henry

The Most Dangerous Game by Richard Connell



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 02:31:53 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I was complaining more about having to attend this meeting than the meeting itself. I sometimes wish I hadn't signed up for so many things, because it leaves me little time to do other things, like my Buffy/izombie crossover.

I'll have to rewrite the Willow scene a little and maybe try to give a better sense of how the slayer situation works..flesh out the world a little more.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jul 12 01:21:34 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Perhaps so.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 01:17:51 2016 67.158.25.23) [Edit/Delete]
Board meeting sometimes suck.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 12 00:15:58 2016 67.158.25.23) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard

So being a hothead is literal?



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jul 11 23:31:09 2016 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"...The brain is an incredibly active furnace, consuming 25 percent of the
glucose and oxygen we take in.1 It burns glucose as its sole fuel, and
yet it has no storage site for it. What little glucose is present in the brain at
any time can be depleted within 5 to 10 minutes if replenishment is not available...


From A User's Guide to the Brain by John J. Ratey, M.D., p.368



1 Comment: The average human brain weighs around 3 pounds.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 11 22:53:54 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Home and wondering if I should get into this Pokmon Go phenomenon.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jul 11 21:48:33 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: What was Paul Revere's day job?
Answer: Silversmith

Trivia Masters: OldManFan, notsoShyGirl
Answer: Newbie: Agent Cooper!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 11 20:39:10 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Still plugging away. How is everyone's day going so far?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 11 16:53:15 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
So far so good at work.

abt It looks like May has pretty much locked up the PM job!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Jul 11 15:36:47 2016 23.31.89.225) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
A rock star - Paul Revere and the Raiders...or what OldManFan said



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jul 11 15:08:33 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: A Rabble Rouser



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Jul 11 14:52:15 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - a silver and copper smith.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jul 11 14:47:03 2016 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: What was Paul Revere's day job?



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KAM says:
(Mon Jul 11 14:24:30 2016 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY SWEEPER

KAM
Ty King Fan



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jul 11 13:16:13 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, July 11th
2016 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


BatCat
LittleHen
newtlette
shadowsong
Shiraz-Petra
Squirrel


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
BatCat. LittleHen, newtlette,
shadowsong, Shiraz-Petra,
Squirrel




Question: Will hiding in a
cavern with stockpiled chocolate
goods be any part of this plan?
Xander, 'This Year's Girl''


to be added to the birthday list,
please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 11 13:05:12 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay sweeper!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Jul 11 11:53:45 2016 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for sweeper!

yay sweeper!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jul 11 11:31:50 2016 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Someday, I'm going to sit down and start watching Game of Thrones. Maybe this fall.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jul 11 07:49:51 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Parthian Glance


DaddyCatALSO,

Just came across this ~ 22 perfect maps of places that don't actually exist (buzzfeed.com)


Of possible interest ...

3. How the US would look today if all secessionist movements had succeeded


Of possible interest to others ...

17. Gotham City

21. Transit System of Westeros




WG



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jul 11 07:38:03 2016 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Late Night Drive-By


Yay AussieBullDog!

Belated Yay Dirty Socks!

Belated Yay Niblet!


Belated Happy Birthday Adam Busch!




Greetings Carita!




"I confess that in 1901 I said to my brother, Orville, that man would not fly for 50 years. Ever since, I have distrusted myself and avoided all predictions."

- Wilbur Wright


*g*


Night All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 11 02:26:31 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Carita

Hi! I'm doing good, I have a birthday this week! 48 this year.



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Carita says:
(Mon Jul 11 01:52:40 2016 24.114.50.125) [Edit/Delete]
Had a great birthday!!! How is
everyone?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jul 11 00:45:56 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Anyone on the beta who can come up with good ideas on two company slogans they are trying to implement at my workplace?

#ownit
Do the Right Thing



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jul 10 22:50:28 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
A quiet day in South Dakota. Much like the beta!



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Maverick says:
(Sun Jul 10 21:33:50 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica: Ohh, I envy you your being able to watch "Game of Thrones" now for the first time. What I would also recommend for you to watch, if your Library has it, "In Treatment." It was extremely well done and featured some unknown actors like Mia Wasikowska and Allison Pill and Dane DeHaan, and some actors who give incredible performances, like Blair Underwood and Melissa George. The psychologist in played by Gabriel Byrne.


Additional Info regarding Philandro Castile Altercationn.


Additional Info regarding Alton Sterling Altercation


Maverick


You'll Never Find




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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Jul 10 12:42:49 2016 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, July 10th 2016 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


HaloGirl
Krystaa
SLaYeR
That girl


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
HaloGirl, Krystaa, SLaYeR, That girl




Whoa. Good myth.Wash, 'Our Mrs. Reynolds'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Jul 10 12:06:06 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe--Yes, don't
wait until you're six seasons behind,
like me and Game of Thrones ;)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jul 10 03:47:39 2016 70.198.47.220) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica

I heard a lot about Mr robot, I'd
better start watching it!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Jul 10 02:41:02 2016 68.53.101.208) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--Mr. Robot is
really good, hope you like it :)
They're getting ready to start the
second season!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jul 10 01:58:49 2016 70.198.40.60) [Edit/Delete]
I am beginning to understand why God
needed a day of rest on Sunday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 9 20:35:21 2016 70.198.42.81) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick. I wish! Just books!



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Maverick says:
(Sat Jul 9 19:48:52 2016 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO: Must be the original "The Italian Job." Michael Caine. I may have seen it already, but can't remember anything about it.


Christopher Marlowe: Selling kisses again?


abt: The Islamization of the UK. This tells the story of Tommy Robinson and his fight against Islam and Shariah Law creeping into the UK, and probably largely aided by the EU's policies of "refugee" redistribution of Muslims.


Maverick


Eyes Without A Face




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jul 9 18:24:26 2016 70.197.213.215) [Edit/Delete]
Four more hours to go!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Sat Jul 9 17:23:23 2016 216.164.173.90) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick Itlaian job remake
or oriuginal?


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