ChristopherMarlowe : The races get longer and more difficult.

The 10 'BtVS' eps today on LOGO were Joss's 10 favorite ones.

Comma

Nothing like a good book you can't put down!

ShadowQuest Horses never seem to quite make that third race.

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Two down, one to go!

I'll Have Another came from behind for the second time in two weeks to upset Bodemeister for the second jewel of the Triple Crown today at Pimlico.

Will he and rookie jockey Mario Guiterrez break the 34-year-old dry spell, and win in three weeks at Belmont?

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Maverick Agent Cooper I can't shake this odd feeling that Peggy Lipton and Amber Benson are distant cousins, but if so there's no easy way for me to find out.

ShadowQuest My landlady's cats often amaze me on where they sleep.

I di notice that they are showing 'BtVS' eps until 7 PM, CST, tonight. 'Doppelgangland' is on right now. Vampire Willow, in leather, is always nice to see.

CC

valMichael, Comma I believe Logo tv often does Buffy marathon, perhaps before just on it's website.

COMMA I believe they have a Buffy marathon going celebrating getting the episodes for re-broadcast.

Just ran across 'BtVS' airing on the 'Logo' channel. I had not seen it on TV for a while. 'The Wish' is on.

CC

Too warm to zoom

It's 84. In May! That's just a bit too warm this early in the year.

Preakness is today - I'll Have Another will be up against 10 other horses, including Bodemeister, whom he beat in the Kentucky Derby. (6 of the field of 11 were in the Derby, including Antigo native D. Wayne Lukas' Optimizer.)

valMichael Wasn't it? I just love things like that; I knew Larry's name from reading Misty's books, but had forgotten that they were raptor rehabilitation specialists. Which makes it all the more cool, in my opinion.

Well, back to working on a horse. Arwen's crashed out on the work table. Sometimes I really envy her - sleep whenever you want, fall asleep as soon as you close your eyes, don't have to worry about money...

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Happy Birthday: buffy_girl85, Cailet, Chris, Sophia Crawford, and wanttoknow!

ChristopherMarlowe in the mood for a couple of farmers, are you?

ShadowQuest Neat link on the Eagles of LOTR.

off to the farmers market!

Good morning everyone!

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Hey, Beldin! I just found out something really cool about the eagles in the Lord of the Rings movies.

I looked up Larry Dixon because I'm reading a series of books he illustrated for his wife, Mercedes Lackey.

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Christopher Marlowe,

Good point

WG

wolfguard Spoiler for OUAT

I'm not sure Jefferson was even aware of what Gold was planning. If he was simply looking to sic Gold on Regina, then his plan would work. I doubt he anticipated the magic flowing through town like that, otherwise his attempts to get Emma to do magic would have been pointless.

Spoiler

Christopher Marlowe,

Spoiler on Once Upon a Time season finale

((I don't remember seeing August/Pinnochio after than scene.

I have another question. It's Jefferson who releases Belle from the institution and directs her to Gold's store. It's after Gold is back with Belle that he takes her into the woods to drop the vial down the well which brings back magick to Storybrooke.

Now the question. Jefferson rescued Belle, because he wanted to take revenge on Regina. Yet, Regina was most at risk after everyone's memories were restored. When Regina saw the magick rolling towards Storybrooke she smiles. So, how does the magick returning help Jefferson get is revenge on Regina?))

WG

wolfguard I saw that part, I wanna know what happened to Pinocchio after that.

Maverick,

I watched Ringer each week until it was preempted by Holiday scheduling. Caught a few new episodes later in the winter, but just became ambivalent about it. I liked Bridget and her quest for redemption, but got tired of not knowing what drove Siobhan. In the last episode I saw, Bridget goes to tell her 'husband' that someone is comitting fraud at his firm, only to be told by him - I did it.

I just do not the patience for series who want to keep you watching by dangling new mysteries or promising they're going to answer some of the questions - just stay tuned.

Now and then, I need an episode that has a beginning-middle-end. I need a story where what attracts me is the character and how they're going to solve their problem or achieve their quest.

For example ...

Summer is approachng and with it the tourists who keep the town in green ...

The remains of a woman are found washed upon the beach. Looks like a shark attack ....


Or for the oldsters ...

The local sheriff gets word that three men he put in prison have been released and they're gunning for him. They'll arrive on the noon train.

Who will help the sheriff? Maybe he should just leave town?


Or


What to take a trip on the maiden voyage of that new ocean liner? It'll be dandy.



WG

Wolfguard: Lipstick? Or Obama would say the Rottweiler is okay to serve for dinner.

Agent Cooper: Well, how do you feel about cherry pie? And Peggy Lipton?

Wolfguard, Sarah's Carl, Christopher Marlowe, Leather Jacket: "Ringer" had a really rough time slot. Too much excellent competition.

Maverick

I Only Have Eyes For You

Leather Jacket,

Revenge was not a mid-season replacement. It debuted last September.


ETA Christopher Marlowe

What's the difference between a mother and a Rottweiler?

In the end, the Rottweiler lets you go. *g*

Spoiler on Once Upon a Time, Pinocchio/August's fate (as of season end)

((Emma goes to August for help. When she knocks on the door, he says he cannot get up. She enters to find August's legs and arms are wood, possibly also his torso. They're able to talk for a short talk, but as Emma watches, August's face and head turn to wood.))



WG

wolfguard Mother/Rottweiler, the mother is more fierce? I shudder to imagine any other answer.

wolfguard I'm not quite sure what happened to Pinnochio at the end of Once Upon a Time.

Leather Jacket,

I do not know how much spoilage you wish to subject yourself to, but the below deals only with the 'inconsistency'.

Custom Spoiler on Once Upon a Time

((Gepetto told the fairy his condition for making the cabinet was that Pinnochio would be one of the two occupants.

As I remember, the fairy asked ~~ what would Snow and the Prince say ~~ Gepetto said, ~ tell them you were mistaken about the cabinet's capacity - it cannot handle two people, only one (Pinocchio rode in a secret compartment).

I cannot remember when it was first said the cabinet could hold two people. In the series premiere, I remember the conference where the fairy tells aout the magic tree and Gepetto is asked if he can build a cabinet using it - and at that time I remember the fairy telling the Prince and Snow that the cabinet would only be able to hold one person.

Again, as I remember, Snow was against leaving the Prince, but he said you have to do it for our child. The of course, Snow goes into early labor leading to baby Emma being sent 'alone'.

My memory is not certain, but I'm guessing the only people who knew the cabinet could hold two people was the fairy, Gepetto and later Pinocchio. Everyone else, both characters and audience, thought the cabinet could only hold one until it was revealed otherwise later in the season.

Is this fair? Well, we did not know Darth Vader was Luke's father until the second movie - is that fair? I imagine writers, critics, teachers and readers debate this issue of revelation.

So we have a topic. *g*))

WG

I really wish this board wouldn't drop all the supposedly-smart-quotes and other MS Word idio-cyncracies.

wolfguard : While I don't blame you for posting about later episodes, I'm still only up to the Mad Hatter ep. That said, if August went with baby Emma through the magical cabinet, then the writers did worse than just slipping on a few characters having the same name between the two worlds. In the series premiere, the cabinet could only take one person, which is why Snow White didn't go with baby Emma. If now August went with Emma, that's a huge inconsistency.

wolfguard, Sarahs Carl, Christopher Marlowe : When the network said that Ringer didn't hold its audience during reruns, he/she didn't mean syndication. He/she meant during the winter hiatus (aka December). (and possibly the spring hiatus aka March/April) Revenge hasn't had that issue because it was a mid-season replacement and I don't think it had reruns.
However, the reason Ringer lost its audience wasn't just the serialized format. Their plot devices tended toward the ludicrous (Gemma was harder to kill than Superman) which meant that when they went on hiatus and other shows arrived or came back, some of us dropped it because it just wasn't worth coming back to.
When Ringer started, I believe I was recording it on the CW and Glee and Raising Hope on FOX live and catching Dancing with the Stars on On Demand. While it was on hiatus, I went to recording DwtS live or something else that had arrived on Tuesdays and when it came back, it just wasnt worth the trouble.
There was a quote I heard when I was much younger that I can't remember now but it was about great literature being able to get us to suspend our disbelief. Ringer just couldn't do that for me.

Trivia Girl : The President of the Alzheimers Association. ... his name is ... uh ... I forget.

Agent Cooper : Take it from me. People still use Mountain Dew to get them through a long, boring day.
Of course, now I'll feel much more patriotic about it. *g*

Beldin
N.J. man jailed Kept extra bank money

Beldin
Raccoons invade Richwood, Texas. So
many

Christopher Marlowe Not so fond myself, I've just been waiting 15 years to use that line *g.

wolfguard An anticipatory Grrroaoaoaoannnnnn

What's the difference between a mother and a Rottweiler?

WG

Tea time is Prince of Wales tea. As per usual it is freezing at this time of the day.

DaddyCAtALSO - Not much of a fan of guacamole, although I've had advocado sandwiches that were very good.


Agent Cooper - Coffee and Kit Kat? I don't think i've ever tried that before. I think the vending machines have that.

Chris Marlowe: I'll let you in a little national defense secret:

Back in the early 90s when I was in the Air Force, we used to do war drills where we had to work on the flightline for days at a time with little rest. It was sometimes hard to stay awake and alert and keep from having an accident with the heavy equipment we worked with. This was before things like energy shots and red bull were common. How did we do it?

MOUNTAIN DEW!! Lots and lots of MOUNTAIN DEW. That stuff is just loaded with sugar and caffeine.

So remember, during the waning days of the cold war your freedoms were being defended at least partly thanks to Mountain Dew. :-)

I have to imagine guys are chugging Red Bull and that energy shot stuff nowadays.

SIDE NOTE: A less common trick that I used sometimes when it was cold outside: A BIG cup of hot black coffee with a king sized Kit Kat bar dissolved in it. Stir thoroughly and chug!

Despite my nom de plume I absolutely despise coffee, but the kit kat helped with the taste a bit and if you wanted to stay alert for a few hours this concoction worked.

Maverick Umm, please don't take this the wrong way but, if you were old enough to know what a crush really was when Nichelle Nichols and Britt Ekland first hit it big, then by the time Sherilyn Fenn came bopping along you would not have been all that much "youthier" anymore.

Christopher Marlowe ShadowQuest My local market has a really good price for avocadoes right now, and my landlady's away tonight. WOuld either of you ladies be interested in stopping by and, umm, making a whole bunch of . . . guacamole tonight? (Sorry, it's been a long week.)

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For all you science geeks out there, here's a guy who built a working Tesla gun.

There's even video.

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Sunnydale's Quotable Pursuits

Category: Presidents
Question:
Who said "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names"?
Answer: JFK

Trivia Presidents: valMichael, Maverick
Trivia Veeps: Agent Cooper


Agent Cooper I'll be sending out vibes for you guys!

I'm doing allright, it's kind of boring here at work at the moment, needed a jolt of caffeine to keep myself awake. Red Bull is popular around here.

Good Mid-Day Everyone,

YAY MYST

Christopher Marlowe: I could use a 3-day weekend EVERY week.

KAM
Ty King Fan

Trivia Girl: John F. Kennedy.

Motor City Comic Con is this weekend. Here are Autograph Pricings. I am tempted by Nichelle Nichols, Britt Ekland, Erin Gray, and Sherilyn Fenn (cc: Agent Cooper) some of the "Girls of Maverick's Youthier Fantasies". I think I'll save my money, though; if they are ever going to be attracted to me, it'll be for my money, haha.

Birthday Happies to: Amy, carlycat, Darkwind, Devastating Charm, Janni, Lord Chaos, and tatybogle

Okay, yes I DID see "Cabin in the Woods" (for $5) and I would recommend it for the performances of Fran Kranz (from "Dollhouse" who seems to be a new Joss favorite) and the ever-wonderful Richard Jenkins (best known as the dead patriarch of the Fisher Family [who comes back often as a ghost] in "Six Feet Under"). I won't explain this movie except to say that Joss borrows somewhat from the mythology of "Buffy" (which also means Lovecraft) for his inspiration.

Maverick

Earth Final Chapter

Chris Marlowe -
Yep, pretty quiet at the ol' Bronze today.

I'm okay. Still in a bit of shock about the baby. The medical PTB are now having my wife do a series of blood tests to make sure she's carrying okay. They say this is because we had a miscarriage not too long ago, so now I guess they keep a closer watch on things after that. She says she feels fine but it's nerve wracking.

How are you?

Happy Birthday: Amy, carlycat, Darkwind, Devastating Charm, Janni, Lord Chaos, and tatybogle!

YAY Myst!

Trivia Girl! John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

Agent Cooper! I wasn't sure anyone would be answering the trivia question. *g*

How are you? I'm feelling a nostalgia for the Friday Nite Quiz that used to be done here.

Trivia Girl: Bruce Lee!

Sunnydale's Quotable Pursuits

Category: Presidents
Question:
Who said "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names"?

yay Myst!!!

KAM I almost wish it was Memorial day weekend, so I would have a three day weekend right now.

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for myst!

yay myst!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY...

TGIF!

KAM
Ty King Fan

Parthian Glance


Christopher Marlowe,

I was thinking back over when the different seasons of BtVS revealed the big bad or the season conflict.

Season 1 - Welcome to the Hellmouth or perhaps Never Kill a Boy on the First Day (With the arrival of the annointed one along with Buffy and Giles' mistake in believing he'd been slayed announced a season conflict coming)

Season 3 - Homecoming (3.5?) which ended with Mayor outing himself when he offered Mr. Trick employment.

Season 4 - The Initiative (4.7) introduced itself, though Adam didn't arise till The I in Team (4.13?)

Season 5 - No Place Like Home (5.5) Dawn's origin and the Monk's warning about Glory.

Season 6 - Afterlife (6.3) Buffy tells Spike she was pulled from heaven which explains why she's not overjoyed being resurrected.

Season 7 - Never Leave Me (7.9?) (Buffy realizes they're fighting the minions of The First)


I did not mention Season 2, since the big bad doesn't appear Innocence which I estimate to be 2.14 (?)



WG

Yay Vampslayer!


Happy Birthday Old One's Youngest!



Christopher Marlowe,

Makes sense. Eventually viewers get tired of waiting for explanations.



Good Night to All

WG

wolfguard Maybe the motivations were clearer? In Revenge, I think folks knew right off the bat who was taking revenge and why.

With Ringer, I think we didn't catch on to Siobhan's reason for revenge against Bridget until the middle of the season. So the twin thing wasn't enough.

Christopher Marlowe,

I've never seen Revenge. I have heard it's based on or inspired by The Count of Monte Cristo.

Perhaps revenge as a motive is more enticing than survival and redemption?


ETA OTOH, I just remembered than SMG described each twin's motive in word word: Bridget is about redemption. Siobhan is about revenge. So I guess one can have both in a show. Possibly some people like their revenge stories pure. *g*


WG

wolfguard Yes, Revenge is serialized as much as Ringer was. I'm not sure what the difference was as far as appeal.

Christopher Marlowe & Sarah's Carl,

I remember back in the day, around about second season, SMG saying she'd like to one day walk into a board room and make a significant contribution. I can see Sarah as a suit, one day running a multi-media firm.

That said, the current exec's explanation for cancelling Ringer is the sort of reasoning one could well have done before green lighting the series. And there are other series with such a format.¹ OTOH, I've read analysts who've said reality shows don't do well in reruns, but they keep getting produced. OTO-OH, the relatively low cost of reality shows may make reruns and syndication less important.

¹ Doesn't ABC's Revenge use a similar serialized format?


WG

Sarah's Carl That doesn't surprise me. The producer thing might tempt SMG, as she might not be up for acting for a while.

Leather Jacket,

I'm still not completely clear on why you believe the writers have been slipping on Once Upon a Time. As I understand your recent post, it's because some of the characters have memories of times before the curse. Excepting Regina, I know of only four - Mr. Gold, Henry, August (?) aka Pinocchio and the Mad Hatter.

With the possible exception of the last, the other three having memories of the past are consistent with the verse story.

1. Mr. Gold provided part or all of the magick underlying the spell and was immune.

2. Henry wasn't born in the other verse. His 'memory' of it seems to come from the fairy tale book.

3. August was in the magick cabinet with baby Emma, so was unaffected by the spell.

4. Jefferson is the odd one out. In the backstory, he was trapped in a different dimension before the spell was cast. Perhaps this protected memory? OTOH, regardless of being in another dimension he is in Storybrooke. OTO-OH, his unhappiness rides on remembering he is the father of a daughter he cannot be with in Storybrooke. Jefferson without a memory, is a Jefferson without loss.

WG

Christopher Marlowe in hollywoodreporter
CW President says"
He also addressed his decision to cancel the Sarah Michelle Gellar vehicle Ringer,
saying the show's serialized format did not help it hold its audience during
reruns.
He said Gellar, the beloved star of iconic series Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
understood the decision and that the exec is committed to getting her back on The
CW in some way, if not in a different series then as a producer.
And he admitted thats hes still being inundated with e-mails from angry Gellar
fans. She will be back on The CW in some form, he vowed.

Maverick,
Wayback Machine Kenya Newspaper 2004.

Leather Jacket,

One of the lessons for Buffy was 'there are old slayers and lone slayers, but no old, lone slayers.' The argument for ignoring this lesson is that it just might get your friends hurt or killed.

Buffy often has experienced pain confronting this reality. In Never Kill a Boy on the First Date she drops Owen, because ...

Buffy: Yeah. But he wants to be danger man. You, Xander, Willow, you
guys... you guys know the score, you're careful. Two days in my world
and Owen really *would* get himself killed. Or I'd get him killed.
(faces Giles) Or someone else.


Prior to the Gentlemen's visit, Buffy was developing a relationship with Riley, who she thought was a normal guy. She could possibly have a normal relationship. It worked with her mom for a few years.

But in the aftermath of the Gentlemen's slaying, she has to figure out whether she wants a relationship with a young man whose profession just might get him hurt or killed. No, no thank you. You go soldier, do the demon-hunter thing, but I'm not going to risk being hurt because of it, because we're not going to be part of each others' lifes.

I'm Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, and I don't play well with others.

Happy Hunting


WG

Sarah's Carl I'll try to catch Person of Interest tonight, although I've never watched the show before.

wolfguard : You've got three thought there:
1 - Evil will always be with us.
2 - It's best that we fight evil.
3 - It's best that we fight together.
I agree with the first and, somewhat, the second (philosophically). So, evil will always be with us and it's best that we fight it. Whether we should fight alone or together depends on the situation. Mind you, whether we should fight it at all, and how we should fight it, depends on the situation.
In the real world, if you're in a bank and someone comes in with a semi-automatic submachine gun, please don't try a roundhouse to his gut. On the other hand, if you should come across a purse snatcher trying to pull a purse off some old lady's shoulder and can bean him with the heavy-duty flashlight you happen to have in your pocket (without him seeing you first) feel free.
In Buffy's world, it's kind of like the Justice League of America, except Super(wo)man is surrounded by a bunch of Batmen and Green Arrows who don't have any toys. Them and Zatana (Willow). Riley may be well trained and physically fit, but he was not supernaturally empowered with the strength and skill to fight the vampires, demons and forces of darkness.

Once Upon a Time : I thought I was clear, but ... The Queen's spell transformed everyone into a new situation. Prince Charming (James) became David, a coma patient. Snow White became schoolmarm Mary Margaret. Jiminy Cricket became psychologist Dr I-forget-his-name. Rumplestiskin became Mr Gould. And everyone was separated from the people they loved, with no memory of the past, and no happy endings. Except Hansel and Gretle were still brother and sister. Red and her Grandmother were still she and her grandmother. And the Mad Hatter not only knew his old life, but kept the same name. And when they finally got around to needing a name in FairyTaleLand for Regina, they gave her ... Regina. What? All the other wicked queen names were taken?

Trivia Girl : Pleonasm means 62 points in Scrabble (not counting bonus squares).

Beldin : sadness.

wolfguard, Maverick, Sarah's Carl : I believe when Lenin refered to "useful idiots", he was refering to those people who will believe anything they read on the Internet.
Then again, I wouldn't exactly call Lenin the ideal example to follow.

Maverick,
From 1991 Promo Booklet

DaddyCatALSO,
Amy Acker retweeted my reminder

Check Out Amy Acker Tonight on
Person of Interest
CBS does not reair on cbs.com

Maverick wolfguard I'm reminded of a lab TA in physics; he pronounced "There's no strict rule" as, roughly, "Sheh sho shi shoo."

Maverick,

I can appreciate the problems created by professors and instructors who speak heavily accented English.

OTOH, I do not accept that foreigner working in IT in the US is necessarily taking a job that could have been done by an American citizen.

Off your comment to Sarah's Carl on Lenin. I cannot find a quote of Lenin where he says ~ liberals are useful idiots. I do believe there were Soviets who spoke of 'useful idiots' (and used them), but they would not likely say such idiots were 'liberals' inosmuch as liberal had a different meaning at that time and place (I believe Lenin died around 1925).

In reflecting back on some of Stalin's decisions, I'm not sure he used 'useful idiot' in referring to Western supporters or apologists. In part, because Stalin was a true believer in the imminent triumph of Communism world-wide. He analyzed world events through the glasses of Marxism-Leninism and thought those glasses top-of-the-line.


WG

Hello again,

Christopher Marlowe: Other than it KILLS whatever is planted into it. Not sure. I'm doing some experimenting to find out.

KAM
Ty King Fan

Wolfguard: Thanks for the link. I always think Dr. Kaku is fair, intelligent, and really likes this country. I don't pick up any bad agendas from him. I agree with him, but I believe the same immigration laws have other tiers which let in a lot of entry-level people who DO take American jobs, jobs from people who have gotten Computer Science degrees and need to start a career. I also agree with the guy off to his right who complained about the Educational System in this country. I especially do not appreciate all the instructors who may know their stuff but who cannot communicate in the English language. It is very frustrating to try to learn a precise difficult subject when the instructor does not understand your question and you don't understand his answer. If the book sucks, and a lot of them do, you are dead in the water.

Sarah's Carl: Do you have a link to the Agent's statement? I guess Lenin said liberals were useful idiots. I didn't think they were useful for much of anything. They just add to the misunderstandings of the world.

valMichael: Did you hear the one about the topologist who didn't know his @ss from a hole in the ground [a favorite expression of my father's.]

Maverick

Crazy

Off to the Library.

DaddyCatALSO, Yup :) I know. That was just a headline on
here

Sarah's Carl Umm, that's not a link. cc Maverick

Sunnydale's Trivial Trivial Pursuits

Category: Language
Question: What does pleonasm mean?
Answer: Using more words than necessary to convey a meaning.

Trivia Wordsmith's: valMichael and Maverick!

Extra stars for dictionary entry provided by valMichael!

Maverick :Spoiled to avoid unintended reading OBAMA LIT AGENT SHOCKER:
'BORN IN KENYA AND RAISED IN INDONESIA AND HAWAII' Who did Lenin call
useful?

Happy Birthday: Old One's Youngest, Watcher X, and Yefa!

YAY vampslayer!

Trivia Girl: From the Oxford English Dictionary - a pleonasmic answer!

pleonasm (with historical examples and etymology)

Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈpliːənaz(ə)m/ , U.S. /ˈpliəˌnz(ə)m/
Forms: 16 pleonasme, 16 pleonasm, 17 pleonism (irreg.), 18 plonasm.
Etymology: [ pleonasmus n. or its etymon post-classical Latin pleonasmus. C

a. Grammar and Rhetoric. The use of more words in a sentence or clause than are necessary to express the meaning; redundancy of expression either as a fault of style, or as a rhetorical figure used for emphasis or clarity. Also: an instance of this; a superfluously worded expression or phrase.

1610 J. Healey tr. St. Augustine Citie of God i. ix. 16 Some thinke the preposition επί to bee heere a Pleonasme‥and that σκοπος and ἐπίσκοπος is all one.
1628 R. Burton Anat. Melancholy (ed. 3) Democritus to Rdr. 13, I require a fauourable censure of all faults omitted, harsh compositions, pleonasmes of words, Tautologicall repetitions,‥&c.
1681 R. Wittie Οὐρανοσκοπια 28, I take it to be a Pleonasm, a Figure frequently used in Scripture.
1741 W. Warburton Divine Legation Moses II. 556 The genius of the Hebrew tongue, which so much delights in pleonasms.
1793 A. Adam Rudim. Lat. & Eng. Gram. 236 Pleonism is when a word more is added than is absolutely necessary to express the sense; as, Vides oculis, I see with my eyes.
a1825 R. Forby Vocab. E. Anglia (1830) , Weeping-tears, a very odd pleonasm, but in very common use for excessive sorrow.
1860 T. P. Thompson Audi Alteram Partem III. cxiv. 45 What the energetic pleonasm of our ancestors denominated a false lie.
1892 Jrnl. Amer. Folklore 5 70 A custom of the old ancients (not meant for a pleonasm, but to signify very ancient people).
1920 T. S. Eliot Sacred Wood 115 Indirect crook'd is forceful in Shakespeare; a mere pleonasm in Massinger.
1959 M. Schlauch Eng. Lang. in Mod. Times iv. 121 These deviations from strictly completed structure‥are obviously very different from the rambling repetitions, the loose pleonasms and unfinished statements of third-level speech as exemplified in Juliet's nurse.
2004 Times Union (Albany, N.Y.) (Nexis) 30 May g2 Nowadays pleonasm is more often thought of as a mistake than as an intentional rhetorical device.

b. The addition of an extra or superfluous letter or syllable to a word; a word extended in this way. Obs. rare.
1671 E. Phillips New World of Words (new ed.) , Pleonasm,‥in Grammer it is the adding of a letter or Syllable either to the beginning of a word and is then called Prosthesis, or to the middle, and is then called Epenthesis, or to the end and is then called Paragoge.
1815 J. G. Spurzheim Physiognom. Syst. 10, I know that covetiveness is a plonasm, but this fault is observed in many other words. Covet itself indicates propensity or wishing for; and I have added iveness solely for the sake of uniformity.

2. gen. Superfluity, redundancy, or excess; something superfluous or redundant. Cf. pleonastic adj. 2.In later use rare exc. in explicitly figurative uses of sense 1.

1616 T. Coryate Traveller for Eng. Wits 22 If any thing be wanting in geometricall dimension of ground, it is with a great pleonasme supplied by the fertility of his soyle.
1648 A. Cowley Foure Ages Eng. 25 Their bodies do, like Sodomes Apples, stand, And they but Pleonasmes of our Land.
1673 Indulgence not to be Refused 3 It is but a pleonasme or overflow of that great kindness.
1736 J. Gill Fulness of Mediator 27 The grace of our Lord has been abundant, superabundant;‥there has been a pleonasm, a redundancy of it in the case of a single believer.
1855 F. P. Cobbe Ess. Intuitive Morals 19 This great school of souls would be a superfluity, a pleonasm in creation.
a1856 W. Hamilton Lect. Metaphysics (1859) I. xix. 369 This hypothesis is not only a psychological solecism,it is, likewise, a psychological pleonasm; it is at once illegitimate and superfluous.

:)

Drive-By


Maverick,

Dr. Kaku speaks on America's secret weapon (YouTube)


WG

Trivia Girl: A neoplasm is a new plasm. Whereas a pleonasm signifies the use of too many words to express a thought, usually the extra words are superfluous or redundant (as in superfluous and/or redundant.) People usually do this in speech to emphasize some aspect of their declaration. Like Extra Virgin. Okay, bad example. Extra Virgin actually has a separate meaning than Virgin.

My little kitty Muffin has a motor.

Agent Cooper: Kyle McLaughlin plays the Mayor of Portlandia (a fictionalized version of Portland, Oregon.) Supposedly it's "where young people go to retire." They can make something artistic there simply by "putting a bird on it." Fred Armisen and Carrie Brownstein star in this hilarious series (now available on DVD.)

I went to see "Cabin in the Woods" last night. More later.

Maverick

Last Dance

This Time Our Love Is For Real

Christopher Marlowe Thanks - I used to own a whole book of them.
Of course, mine is funnier with the illustrations -or at least makes more sense that way *g.

DaddyCatALSO Not a bad light bulb joke. *g* I bet there are a million of them!

"Hey, Sal, how many Squiggle Villagers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"

"With the contrast and shading effects around here, Pablo, who needs lightbulbs?"

"Okay, so step on my punchlines."

Sunnydale's Trivial Trivial Pursuits

Category: Language
Question: What does pleonasm mean?

KAM What seems to be the problem with your garden?

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY VAMPSLAYER

Christopher Marlowe: My neighborhood seems to be doing ok...except for my garden, which is doing very not-OK.

KAM
Ty King Fan

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Happy CD Thursday!

ChristopherMarlowe: Yes following game of thrones. Noticed in two of the situations that there were objects hidden in plain sight. Have not checked the other situations in that hour of the show.
Have you read the books?

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LEGO Avengers.

Does just what is says on the tin.

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Yay Werewolf123!


Happy Birthday Stina'!


Happy Birthday AKA Becker!


Happy Birthday David Boreanaz!



Christopher Marlowe,

Could be.



Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

On "Dancing with the Stars: The Angel edition", who would be the favorite?

Wesley & Angel



Good Night to All

WG

wolfguard There are some people that seems to have all kinds of bad luck and ones who just seem to be always lucky. I seems to be all about perception.

Comma,

I do not believe the Kennedys are victims of some occult curse. Here's a partial list (I've used 'Kennedy' to label relatives who might have other surnames, but are usually included in the count).

1. Joe Jr. dies when his bomber exploded during WW2.

2. JFK/RFK were both assassinated. Both had enemies.

3. Several Kennedys and related kin died in private airplane crashes. Private aircraft have ~ four times the crashes of commercial airlines.

4. At least one died of drug overdose, a not uncommon cause of death.

5. One died in a skiing accident. I believe he ran into a tree. Is this rare? Sonny Bono died the same way. How many skiers die skiing each year? How many die from running into objects?

6. Ted Kennedy died from cancer, but he was very old.


Other Bad Stuff

1. At least one Kennedy was mentally ill and institutionalized.

2. One Kennedy was tried for rape, but acquitted.

3. One Kennedy was tried for murder and convicted.

4. JFK & Jackie's youngest son died a couple days after birth. He was premature.


Excepting the assassinations, I don't see any of these as unusual. I suspect if one tracked any large, extended family over several generations, then one would find a number of tragedies.


WG

Christopher Marlowe, We still have George McGovern , 90 in July.
I may watch X Factor with Britney Spears.
I forgot Evil Queen , Lana Parilla was on 24 & Spin City & Lost

Christopher Marlowe,

By my count, this week is The I in Team, but I've no yet posted on last weeks A New Man (though I did rewatch it *g*).


Leather Jacket,

I noted Riley's reasoning, because you responded to my original statement by examining Riley's questionable behavior with respect to his and Buffy's relationship. However, my original comment, ~~ Riley was right ~~ referenced one line in Doomed. It's where he tells Buffy, that evil will always be with us and it's best if we fight together and not alone.

Do you disagree with this thought?


As I remembered Shadow, one of the characters said something about how animals, properly doused with magick, could see hidden things, e.g. the key. I could not remember if it was Glory, a minion, Giles or Anya. Unfortunately, I could not find such said in skimming the shooting script.


How do you think the writers are 'slipping' in Once Upon a Time?


WG

Sarah's Carl Heard about that this morning. We lost former Gov. Janklow not that long ago. All the SD greats are going!

wolfguard We could take more about 'A new Man' too. You know, I kinda wish we had heard more Fyarl spoken, because it sounded an awful lot like English. *g*

R.I.P. Sen Jim Abdor SD Rep. , defeated George McGovern 1980

Beldin I started off with disc four of Honey West and today I just got the first dvd of Honey West. I'm watching the series backwards!

Comma : I think some focus on the bad things that have happened to the Kennedys, ignoring the good. I also think that some of the Kennedys have lived in such a way as to have stacked the odds against themselves. Then again, the patriarch (Joe Sr) apparently earned his living through ... questionable means.

wolfguard : That big snake was kind of a special case. IIRC, it wasn't a demon; I think it was ... crafted. And it was spelled to seek out the key wherever it might be hiding.

As to Riley, all along he was saying and showing he understood. He didn't. Chalk that one up against him, too. And if he needed to be needed, there are a lot better ways to be needed than risking infection by visiting hookers vampires. What? He's never heard of a soup kitchen?

wolfguard : I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mad Hatter's name (Jefferson) was a tribute to Jefferson Airplane/Starship. But I do think the writers are slipping. Both Jefferson and Regina have the same names in both places. OTOH, both Jefferson and Regina know about both places. OTOOH, Rumplestilskin's name is not the same in both.//
Not that I think we need spoiler code for Once Upon a Time episodes that aired in March, but since that's as far as I've gotten so far...

Christopher Marlowe : Wild-guess time: The Watchers Council presents itself to the United Nations as world services organization (The International Society of Nocturnal Public Safety Officers ... okay, not much of an anagram) and charges the international community some kind of fee for its public service.
Prior to WWII, your guess is as good as mine.

YayOfTheDay Angel Wednesday Memorial deadguy Question : Not sure how they would cast Dancing with the Stars: Angel Edition, since none of the characters on Angel could be considered stars, but on talent, Lorne would be the favorite. But if Lindsey were competing, he could carry the bad-boy-fan vote.

Trivia Girl : Gwen had the power to seduce Angel away from his true love, Lindsey.

wolfguard

I think 'The I in Team' is next?

Hereabouts


WG

I have a question for all. 'Do all feel that the Kennedy Family is cursed, or is it that we just hear more news about them making them looked cursed?'

R.I.P. Mary Kennedy, the estranged wife of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Found dead in her home today. She was 54.

Comma

Agent Cooper: Aren't you now the Mayor of Portlandia? Funny show! To make anything artistic you must ____________? What?

Maverick

White Room

Agent Cooper There was a werewolf - Nina. (PLayed by actress married to the husband-guy in the AMerican Pie tertralogy.)

Hey! Wasn't Gwen the werewolf?

I thought there was a werewolf...

Sunnydale's Angelic Pursuits

Category: Angel
Question: What special power did Angel character Gwen Raiden have?
Answer: electricity

Trivia Live Wires: Maverick, ShadowQuest,valMichael, DaddyCatALSO
Trivia On the Fritz: Agent Cooper

Thanks everyone!

Trivia Girl: Gwen Raiden was a human electricity generator (like an electric eel) and could discharge into other humans.

Yay, werewolf123, Yay!

Agent Cooper: Congrats on the happy news. Good work.

Birthday Happies to: 'stina, AKA Becker, Dalia, David Boreanaz, James Tyler, Leira, and mapleleaf

Deadguy QOD (yesterday) I still can't get over how vicious Mr. Trick was when he fought Buffy, trying to take her head off

Deadguy QOD Doyle and Cordelia (didn't he have a crush on her?)

ShadowQuest: Have you tried Subway? They DO have to hustle at times but they seem to be always open and they always seem to be hiring and here in Michigan even have a tip jar.

Maverick

SuperFreak

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Trivia Girl She had a shocking personality. A real little spark-ler, that one. A first meeting with her was electric.

She had the ability to manipulate electric current.

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werewolf123 Followig Game of Thrones are you? *g*

valMichael Ooops, I never "thunk" of that. The tai chi would also help a lot, especially on top of the pep squad and club-girl backgrounds.

Happy Birthday to: stina, AKA Becker, Dalia, David Boreanaz, James Tyler, Leira, and mapleleaf!

YAY werewolf123!

Trivia Girl Ability to manipulate electricity directly.

deadguy QOD On the male side, Gunn and Lindsey McDonald would be excellent candidates.
On the female side, I would put Fred, Faith and Cordelia, the later based on her development as a fighter under Angel's tutelage.

Thanks for the Yays.

Jon Snow knows nothing.
Jon Snow knows Willow.
Interesting...

TRIVIA GIRL: Gwen's power? She freaked out and grew fangs and claws and got really angry about once a month.

Deadguy Memorial Quod Considering her training as a cheerleader and her experience as the Queen of What's In in high school, I'd go with Cordelia.

Leather Jacket Too true, however, since I was posting about a conversation I'd once had I really should be screaming, "Objection! Relevance." *weg

ETATrivia Girl "permanent shcoking grasp" *g - she had a high-voltage electrical touch.

Sunnydale's Angelic Pursuits

Category: Angel
Question: What special power did Angel character Gwen Raiden have?

Yay werewolf123!!


deadguy qod I think Gunn would do nicely.

Happy Birthday to stina, AKA Becker, Dalia, David Boreanaz, James Tyler, Leira, mapleleaf!

KAM How goes your neighborhood?

Good Morning Everyone,

Belated YAY Lady Samantha

YAY Werewolf123

Deadguy QOD: Faith.

Agent Cooper: Congratulations.

KAM
Ty King Fan

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for werewolf 123!

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Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!

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Five-year-old Avenger meets the Avengers.

What a story!

Lucky little guy with one HECK of a life-long memory!

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Yay Lady Samantha!



Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

What was the best vampire/demon kill done on Buffy?

Best kill, though not fight ...

CALEB
Stupid girl. You'll never stop me.
You don't have the b --

As he is saying it, she arcs the blade back and swings it up right between his legs. We don't see it connect, of course, but we sure as hell see his expression when it does.

BUFFY
Well, who does nowadays?


From the shooting script of Chosen, courtesy of Buffyworld.com



A personal favorite ...

Helpless



Good Night to All

WG

Lurking Hereabouts


ETA Christopher Marlowe,

I believe the Watcher's Council evolved centuries after the Shadowmens, so I'll answer your question in that light.

The Council had to have had a worldview that went beyond a village horizon or an empire's march. Only two preindustrial organizational-types possessed such a view, merchant-traders and some religious folks.

Both such groups would have members who were literate, numerate and multilingual. Both could tap resource streams and overtime build income streams from investments. The pre-2003 Council likely were financed by such investments and might well have had an income-generating business arm.


I define 'Watcher' as a Council member who works in the field doing both research and surveillance on vampires, demons and other forces of darkness. I imagine they earn $45-68k/year depending on experience and station.

I've coined the phrase, 'Prime Watcher' for the watcher responsible for the Slayer. The PM earns between $60-75k, again depending on experience (One would think the most experienced watcher would be assigned the slayer, but other factors might come into play in selecting the PM).


WG

Guess I'm all alone tonight. *g*

Back online

need to go offline for a bit for a non-emergency reason. *g*

wolfguard You know, I wonder how much the Council paid Watchers and where the money comes from.

Leather Jacket,

The big snake in Shadow could see the Key.


ETA

Riley tells Buffy the reason he let vampires drink his blood was because they needed him - and she did not (see Into the Woods). The discerning fan, *g*, could see this was brewin' in Riley from early 5th season, most noticeably in Shadow. I can still remember the final scene of the episode. It's outside Joyce's hospital room. Joyce had asked to see Dawn alone, so Buffy had stepped into the hallway. Riley tells her he is there for her if/when she needs him - and then Joyce calls for Buffy to join her and Dawn. Buffy turns from Riley and renters the room, shutting the door behind her. The angle is from Riley's POV, watching Buffy go and the door closing between them.

I was so certain of the meaning of that final shot, that I checked the shooting script at Buffyworld. And here it is ....


RILEY
Come here.
She lets him pull her into his arms. She looks as though she's finally going to let down. Grateful for his touch.

RILEY
It's okay... You need to let it out. I'm
right here.

But Buffy pauses. Wanting to let go - but not daring.

BUFFY
I can't. Not now. They need me, you know?
She steps back, gently pushing him away.

BUFFY
If I start now, I won't be able to stop.

They stand apart for a moment. Riley wanting to comfort. Wanting her to let him in. Then-

JOYCE (O.S.)
(calling)
Buffy...

Buffy looks at Riley. He nods his understanding. She takes his hand, squeezes it, then moves toward the door.

REVERSE ANGLE as she takes a breath and enters, never looking back.
Riley watches as the door closes behind her and he's left, standing there in the hallway,alone.

BLACK OUT

Emphasis added



Jumping to Once Upon a Time

The Mad Hatter's name in Storybrooke is 'Jefferson.' Possibly because the 60s song, White Rabbit, was peformed by The Jefferson Airplane.


WG

ShadowQuest--Sorry about your losing your job, what a shock! I'm crossing my fingers you'll find something soon :)


Agent Cooper--Congrats!


Yay! Lady Samantha!

Leather JAcket Interesting spec. I think the writers left themselves wide open to go any direction they want, given the ending.

Christopher Marlowe, wolfguard : More on Once Upon a Time (Hat Trick) : It struck me this morning. The people in the know are Regina, who's magical; Rumplestilskin, who's magical; Henry, who's a child, and the Hatter, who's nuts! Compare that to season 5 of Buffy, when crazy people could see that Dawn was the Key. I think there was something else that could see that Dawn was the Key, but I can't remember now.//

YayOfTheDay Buffy Tuesday Memorial deadguy Question : I'm torn. I've always loved the vampire kill in NKABOTFD, where Buffy has to work so hard to dispatch Pork n Beans at the mortuary. Then there's Glory; they had to really work at that one. Unfortunately, they didn't kill Glory. They killed the almost-innocent-but-not-quite Ben, which casts a stain on that kill, especially since Giles knew that Buffy wouldn't kill Ben because it's wrong.

Trivia Girl Wesley. And it wasnt fair! *stomp*

Congratulations, Agent Cooper!

DaddyCatALSO : The problem with your word plays is that your non-word-play spelling can be atrocious. It's like someone with a poor vocabulary trying to do a malapropism. People will assume that they're just getting something wrong again.

Christopher Marlowe,
Look forward to new Fall ABC show Nashville with Connie Britton & Hayden
Panetierre

DaddyCatALSO, Sarah's Carl TV movies sure might be doable, either spinoffs of Ringer or completely separate projects.

I do think SMG won't necessarily have to look for work, but she might field a number of offers.

ShadowQuest Well, I had the consonance (or is it just alliteration?) with "beautiful blonde brides" so I figured it might be fun to extend it thru the whole post.
My little wordplays often get missed as easily as my jokes. In one conversation I called soemthing a "segmeficant signant" and figured it would be an obvious spoonerism thing but the folks I was talking to just did a "What?"

Christopher Marlowe Sarah's Carl Like I said, the Ringer property itself seems ideal for a couple TV-movies, and those might get the numbers.
I'm not sure how much in demand she really is, despite her talent; she's done a lot of bombs.

Shadowquest,
Mayim Bialik was briefly interviewed by Jeff Probst during Survivor Reunion show
at the Ed Sullivan theater.
Will you catch Amy Acker on Person of Interest?
Christopher Marlowe, I wonder will Sarah wait for a show created for her or will
she go on casting call? I wonder if she was on many since Buffy?

Tea time is Prince of Wales tea.

Sarah's Carl I hope SMG will find other gigs, after her next child.

Zoom back through the other way

DaddyCatALSO Yes, that's what I meant. I got a definite Prince William vibe from that top photo.

Graham Greene is an Oneida native from Canada.

Any particular reason you went to the bees with your Tweet?

Sarah's Carl That's what I assumed - it was the scene where she's crying after Siobhan "drowned," so I figured it was "sorry about your show being cancelled, congrats on the new baby" kind of thing.

I'm usually watching "Big Bang Theory" so I don't get to see ET much, except "in transit" when I'm waiting for something else to start, like last night.

Christopher Marlowe Got energy assistance, applied for "food share" (food stamps) and talked to the store owner @Culver's today. Sounds like she might hire me - she said she needs "a couple people" and she'd let me know in a couple days.

Also talked to a guy @Menard's about his horses. I'd gone in w/my resume in a folder w/a white Arab on it, and the guy commented on the folder. Turns out he lives in Elcho & raises Thoroughbreds! He gave me his work card w/his home cell - sounded kind of like he wanted me to come out & help them on the farm. I'm a bit confused, but I'll call in a couple days & see what that's all about.

Brief break, then out to finish priming the house. Got another gallon of primer today, and a few more color chips for trim. Some creamy colors and light greys. I got one called Bronzed Ivy that's a really deep green; I might like that for the shutters, possibly the fence. We'll see.

Oh yeah - gotta start work on my Green Man...

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Shadowquest, maybe it was a report that Ringer was cancelled :(

Maverick well, as far as I known Gra ham Greene *is* an Indian, so....

ShadowQuest If by "royal vibe" you mean he looks abit like some of the British royals, yes, alhto I'dn't've looked for it if you'dn't said anything.

Hmm, I can fit @juliebenz.@mercedesmcnab.best.bwishes.bto.b2.beautiful.blonde.brides!.(bsorry.bcouldn't.bresist) into a Tweet if I'm so inclined.

I'm guessing it was a report on _Ringer_'s cancellation

Sunnydale's Buffydale Pursuits

Category: Buffy
Question: What character was known as the 'Annoying One'?
Answer: The Anointed One

Trivia Josses: valMichael, Maverick
Trivia Whedons: Menomegirl!

Trivia Girl: What valMichael said. Spike nicknamed him the Annoying One. I always thought he looked like a young Graham Greene (who always played an Indian, for instance, in "Dances With Wolves."

Maverick

Till I Hear It From You

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Photos from Mercedes McNab's wedding.

Anyone else get a Royal vibe off the groom in that first shot?

Agent Cooper Congratulations! I love when Bronzers have good news to share with this community.

On a related note, Simon Helberg (Moist in Dr. Horrible, Howard Wolowitz on BBT) and his wife just had a baby girl, named Adeline. There's a nice, old-fashioned name you don't hear often.

I was recently lamenting the slow disappearance of classic names like Veronica & Alexander; one of the sites I frequent has ugly tattoos, and the one in question was of two "babies" (Or glow-worms) on clouds, with the names Tiara and Nevaeh underneath.

shakes head

Sarah's Carl Did you by any chance catch Entertainment Tonight last night? I flipped to ABC just at the tail-end of it, and saw SMG as Bridget, in the sheepskin coat, crying. I wonder what the report was?

Zoom, zoom

Thanks everybody. I'm still in shock.


DEADGUY QOD: Best Vampire Slaying was in OMWF, dramatic slayage to punctuate the final notes of "GTTM"


ValMichael: I've been meaning to do the rewatch, honestly, but I've been busy and my Rangers are making a cup run this year- now in the Playoffs, and I've also gotten addicted to watching Batman, The Animated Series.

Happy Birthday to: elusio and Lisap515!

YAY Lady Samantha

Trivia Girl The Annointed One, the Master's Great warrior, i.e. Collin, played by Andrew J. Ferchland.

deadguy QOD what is the best slaying of a vampire/demon on Buffy?
1. Buffy Throwing the Master through the skylight onto the broken table and having him slowly turn to dust leaving only his bones (which has happened to no other vampire during the rest of both series).
2. Skewering Angel and sending him to hell with Acathla was amazing.
3. Blowing up the Mayor was pretty spectacular!
4. the fight with Adam as the Uber-Slayer, and pulling out his power core was delicious.
5. Bizarro Buffy being killed by the Master (wrong person killed)
6. can't use Glory/Ben, she was a god and he was human.
7. None of the others are really good enough

I'm going with #1, Buffy vs. The Master, round 2.

Agent Cooper Congrats!! Now we know what you have been up to instead of watching The Great Re-Watch of Buffy the Vampire Slayer :)

Agent Cooper Yay! Congratulations. (Much more appropriate reaction than my "Oh, OK," when my ex called and told me the Kit-kat was on her way.)

Agent Cooper Congrats on the new bouncing baby Agent!

Agent Cooper - Congratulations!

Yay Lady Samantha!!

Happy Birthday elusio and Lisap515!

Congratulations to you both, Agent Cooper!

Trivia Girl-Colin.

deadguy qod-
Best vampire kill: I'm gonna go with Buffy killing the minion vamp in The Magic
Box in the episode Tabula Rasa, even though she didn't know who she was.

Vampire I wish Buffy hadn't killed: Holden Webster.

Best demon kill: The Gentlemen-those guys gave me the creeps.

Best fight scene: tie--Buffy/Faith, because it was epic. Xander/Harmony, because
that will never not be funny.

ps-Awhile back, I did a best fight poll on my LJ. The winners were:
Buffy vs. Angelus in "Becoming pt.2" and Angel vs Spike in "Destiny".

I just seconds ago found out my wife is pregnant with our second child. I'm completely numb. All kinds of feelings want to boil out of me but I'm not ready to share this with anyone, and I'm sitting at my desk at work in a room full of coworkers so I can't really react which is very hard. So I'm typing this here.

Wow. Just wow.

Sunnydale's Buffydale Pursuits

Category: Buffy
Question: What character was known as the 'Annoying One'?

yay Lady Samantha!!

Happy Birthday elusio and Lisap515

deadguy qod That's a bit of a morbid question, but if we're talking best fight or something, I think the battle with Glory was pretty spectacular. The most interesting kill would probably be Giles smothering Ben.

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for lady samantha

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What was the best vampire/demon kill done on Buffy?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY...

valMichael: I think the Original Conan was ok, but I've only been a casual viewer of it.

KAM
Ty King Fan

Leather Jacket--Ahh, but if a deer digs up your plants you can't do anything about it, unless it's deer season. But a chipmunk, now that's a different story!


Happy Belated Birthday Austin154!


Belated Yay! Peace Fire!

lostinamerica : Idunno. The deer dug up my newly planted flowers --- back when I did such a thing --- and I didn't hold it against them.

wolfguard : It's been a while. What I recall is that Riley was dissatisfied with a lack of communication between himself and Buffy.
I also don't much care why he made a wrong choice. It was wrong, and he made it over and over again.

Grrrr. It seems On Demand has decided not to put the most recent (last?) episode of The Finder on. I guess there's the DVD release.

Christopher Marlowe, wolfguard : I'm only up to the Hat Trick episode of Once Upon a Time, but other than the annoying tendency of good guys doing bad things, I really enjoy the show. Also, Mad Hatter is a H*TTIE! ... But the way he dresses? Don't even try to tell me that guy's straight.

Agent Cooper : Really? The Avengers is awesomeness! Sliced bread? ... meh.

Trivia Girl : John Wayne.

Yay Peace Fire!



Night All

WG

Happy Birthday: Austin154, CHRIS,
EviLS I T, pink fish rool!!!,
Sasheer, and Snackdog!

Yay PeaceFire!

wolfguard, Beldin That makes a lot of sense. Then we should be worried about Joss' next new project. *g*

wolfguard, Christopher Marlowe - I understood "regression to the mean" immediately. It's actually an apt description of one who can be phenomenally good but becomes just like everybody else.

Christopher Marlowe,

Insider joke for math nerds. *g*

Have you ever heard of the Sports Illustrated curse? If an athlete is put on the cover because of their performance, then it's said their near future performance will often decline.

The cause is variance of performance. One usually makes the cover, because of superior performance. The athelete is performing at the top of his or her game.

However, if there's a top of your game, then there's bottom of your game and everywhere in between. So, the acclaimed athelete performance is more likely to decline towards his average peformance than to remain at the peak. The statistical phrase for returning to the average is regressing to the mean.


ETA Applied to Joss. He directed and co-wrote a film that has broken box office records. It's unlikely he'll be able to do it a second time (but not highly unlikely, just unlikely *g*).


WG

wolfguard Regression to the mean?

Beldin Even Canandian crooks are po0lite.

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Barkeep! Your strongest drink, please.

I'm back among the unemployed. My boss actually called me this afternoon to tell me she was taking me off the schedule. No warning, no "you need to work on this to get better," nothing. Just...gone. Said I wasn't "working out" and she was sorry.

scoffs Sure. That's why she called instead of saying anything to me in person.

First time in four years I've been without a job.

Sigh.

Even this really weird episode of "Police Story" with William Shatner & Dean Stockwell isn't doing anything for me. Off to shower, since I have an appointment @9 in the morning for energy assistance. And most likely food stamps, too. Then I'll try to find another job, and drop off my uniform smocks so I can get my last paycheck.

Zoom, zoom

Now here. *g*

Christopher Marlowe,

I don't know if success will spoil him, but will with all the magazine articles and the like, Joss is flirting with regression to the mean.

WG

Here now.

The human eye can distinguish between 7 million colors. A lot of them have names but most are designated by a hexadecimal number system. I have to check but I believe there are about 40 million wavelengths we call colors that the human eye can see, but the differences between them are too subtle for us to distinguish between them. Basically we just hit the highlights.

wolfguard, DAddyCatALSO Sort of a metallic gray, I gather?

wolfguard I wonder if success will spoil Joss Whedon.

Tea time is Lady Grey and donuts.

In another hour I will be off to a meeting that might last til 7 pm MST. So I might be offline for several hours.

ShadowQuest Kinda my reaction.

wolfguard Thanks. I may research the B&A wedding gowns again, since I can never remember which ones I chose later.

DaddyCatALSO,

Rhodium (Color Wiki)

WG

Yet another zoom through

Trivia Girl In some translations, the pale horse is ridden by Pestilence, but the standard translation is Death.

DaddyCatALSO I've never heard of it, so had to look it up. I guess a silvery-white dress could be called rhodium, although that's kind of silly.

Then again...better than aluminum.

Rhodium is also apparently a dressage stallion, although he is not silvery-white.

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The writeup up of Julie's wedding described the gowns the wedding party lasses (Clare, Charisma, Jaime Murray, etc.) wore as "rhodium." That's a color now?

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Bible
Question: Which of the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode a pale or green horse?
Answer: Death

Trivia Gods: valMichael, ShadowQuest
Trivia Mortals: Agent Cooper


valMichael - Yeah,. it is rather a grim topic after Mother's Day, I didn't think of that.

ShadowQuest When I was a kid, I was undecided between To ny Stark and Ste phen Strange.