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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Sep 1 23:21:44 2014 72.78.162.13) [Edit/Delete]
abt AMerican economic history is quite complicated; the union system was quite strong from the 30s thru the late 70s.
In many European countries, the labor movements co-opted May Day as a sort of International Labor Day.



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Maverick says:
(Mon Sep 1 23:18:19 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
abt1: Unions in the U.S.? A real mixed bag. The big 3 Auto companies (GM, Ford, and Chrysler) were always involved with the U(nited)A(uto)W(orkers) Union. There WERE problems with Worker Safety AND treatment, and therefore a need for Unions at one time. They functioned as a counterbalance to Management and there were what we can only call successes at first. During WWII, for instance, Ford converted a lot of his car production to production of the B-24 Bomber, and they could evidently turn out one every 63 minutes. During the war, Ford hired many women (Rosie the Riveter) and even a lot of midgets (to crawl into tight spaces to weld and wire the bombers.) We (I think we in the U.S. believe this) basically won WWII by outproducing the Germans. (They also made many fighter planes in California.) Things like this took a joint effort-union and management. After the war, however, the unions became protectors of bad workers and extorters of wages and benefits (beyond what was earned.) The Union leaderships became entrenched and wealthy and negotiations took on a life of their own. The leadership had to prove to the workers they were doing something (to earn the dues) and so they became really antagonistic towards Management. I remember my father was a Steelworker and those Contracts were games of chicken, often resulting in silly strikes. Later, the Garment Workers Union drove all the textile mills out of our southeastern states in this country (my Jockey© Shorts are now made in Sri Lanka or Pakistan.) Check out the movie "Norma Rae" for the history. And then between the Steelworkers Union and the EPA, they drove a lot of heavy industrial steel plant work out of the country. Finally, the car plants that ARE coming to this country to produce cars here (South Korean, Japanese, German) are non-union, chances are.


abt2: May Day in England had more to do with Socialism (Marxism) as I remember it years ago. Marx is buried in Highgate Cemetery there in London (have you ever been to his grave?) I remember a movie ("Morgan!") that portrayed London as distinctly headed in that direction with their unions. Morris dancing? (Is that with a cat? Over here Morris was a cat who advertised for 9-Lives Cat Food. Haha--I just remembered--my best friend dated Morris the Cat's "secretary.")


abt3: Yes, Ferguson had a small role in Season One of "Red Dwarf." Maybe he and Capaldi are related. Maybe it's time for me to watch "Red Dwarf" all over again. Ferguson was in a situation comedy here with Drew Carey (comedian--flattop haircut and horned-rimmed glasses.) I think he loves it here, although he is leaving his stint as Late Night Talk Show host where he's been for many years. I think he's great in whatever he's done!


Maverick


Hooked on a Feeling




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abt says:
(Mon Sep 1 21:35:53 2014 84.9.158.126) [Edit/Delete]
ShadowQuest, ChristopherMarlowe, Maverick - that's interesting, I wouldn't have thought of America as having a day celebrating unions. The image I get from the media is that it is very capitalist and anti-union, but obviously a whole massive country is more complex than that.

Maverick - I never thought of our May Day as being anything to do with unions. More to do with spring, maypole dancing, Jack in the green, Morris dancing etc

Maverick - you know Capaldi and Ferguson were in a band together? I remember Ferguson from Red Dwarf.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 1 21:24:52 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Sep 1 21:29:00 2014
wolfguard I finished reading my book Cubicle, which was pretty much a history of the origination and rise of 'white collar workers' to general office design.

One of the things mentioned was a Advertising Guru named Jay Chait, who attempted to revolutionize the office environment and the way offices worked, which became a disaster.

Chiat Office

ETA

Almost immediately, "bread lines" started forming at the concierge desk. There weren't enough phones and computers for the entire staff. Chiat had reckoned that a virtual office could get away with less equipment than people, because, the theory went, some people would always be out of the office. So he had leased a scaled-back equipment package. Then everyone blew his theory to hell by showing up at the concierge desk at the same time. "That was a serious glitch," Chiat acknowledges now. Why not get more phones and equipment? "I couldn't. There was a shortage or something." (Kuperman says the agency was strapped for cash and simply couldn't afford the equipment to go virtual.) Along with the jostling for seats in the project rooms there began the scuffling for equipment. ]



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Sep 1 21:06:28 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Labor Day
Question: What year did Labor Day become a federal holiday?
Answer: 1894

Trivia Masters: Maverick and valMichael, since there are different valid dates!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Sep 1 20:39:50 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: 1887, per Wikipedia.


abt: Maybe you know it as Labour Day? J/K, no, Labor Day is our May Day, a celebration of the Labor (union) Movement in this country. Canada also celebrates it today but as Labour Day. Capaldi reminds me of Craig Ferguson who has emigrated from Scotland and who does a Late Night Talk Show here in the U.S. He might also make a good doctor.


They're still borrowing $3 million from China to "study" why so many Lesbians are Obese. Obama wants to know.


Federal Government to tell deported aliens they can now come back. It used to be that they were automatically deported if they were convicted of committing crimes. Obama wants them back in time to vote in November. The ACLU (bunch of lefties) sued the Fed Govt on their behalf and the Fed Govt (Obama) bent over and "settled" the suit. While you may think the ends justify the means, just wait till you get on the short stick of the ends. They are mocking the "Rule of Law."


Here's another article on Antarctica ice melting that conveniently neglects to mention there are volcanoes in Antarctica--Mt. Erebus, for instance, that last erupted in 2011. Mt. Erebus also is one of the 4 spots on earth with a permanent molten lava pool. The insinuation being left with the reader is that this is CO2 Global Warming, which it is not. Likewise with Iceland and Greenland and other such glacier spots that sit on top of volcanoes. They keep spreading this propaganda as they're hoping to build of reserve of deluded people who believe in this.


Marvel "Easter Eggs" video at bottom of the page


Maverick


Nights in White Satin




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 1 19:33:17 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
abt A bit of copy and paste.

What Labor Day means according to the U.S. Department of Labor "Labor Day, the first Monday in September, is a creation of the labor movement and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of American workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country."



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ShadowQuest says:
(Mon Sep 1 18:55:05 2014 65.73.75.254) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Sep 1 18:58:29 2014
Zoom through

Rainy days and Mondays...

Christopher Marlowe Check your e for the cover from the interview with me in Prime Time.

I'm going to experiment w/the scanner, see if I can get the article itself scanned - they only brought me a half-dozen copies, and that's not enough to snail-mail everyone.

I laugh at all the tourists who planned on a three-day weekend...but didn't check the weather forecast first.

ETA: abt It's an American holiday, ostensibly to "celebrate the workers" but has turned into "the last hurrah of summer" - parades, cookouts, sales at retailers, etc. Ya know...commercialization of yet another holiday.

"Labor Day in the United States is a holiday celebrated on the first Monday in September. It is a celebration of the American labor movement and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of their country.

Labor Day was promoted by the Central Labor Union and the Knights of Labor, who organized the first parade in New York City. After the Haymarket Massacre, which occurred in Chicago on May 4, 1886, U.S. President Grover Cleveland feared that commemorating Labor Day on May 1 could become an opportunity to commemorate the affair. Thus, in 1887, it was established as an official holiday in September to support the Labor Day that the Knights favored."

Zoom, zoom



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abt says:
(Mon Sep 1 18:34:01 2014 84.9.158.126) [Edit/Delete]
What is Labor Day?

Capaldi is great as the Doctor IMO.



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valMichael says:
(Mon Sep 1 16:07:28 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe by all means, go to the parade! It should be fun.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 1 15:17:33 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael I might hit up the Labor day parade soon!



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valMichael says:
(Mon Sep 1 14:56:50 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl 1894. Hooray for the Working Classes!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Sep 1 14:13:43 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Labor Day
Question: What year did Labor Day become a federal holiday?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 1 13:29:05 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael We're definitely seeing the cooler temps of fall, and some rain too. Today is very sunny though, perfect for the Labor day parade.



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valMichael says:
(Mon Sep 1 13:04:46 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday: elover, Marilee, RikkrP, Vanessa and Vviolet!

YAY Icelord!
{{{Hugs and Smoochies}}} from your your dadlet!

ChristoherMarlowe We have rain scheduled all week! High's are supposed to be in the high 80s. That's mild weather for here during the first week of September.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Sep 1 12:39:00 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, September 1st, 2014 C.E.
Happy Labor Day!

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!



elover
Marilee
RikkrP
Vanessa
Vviolet


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
elover, Marilee, RikkrP, Vanessa Vviolet!



I got stupid. The money was too good.Jayne, 'Objects In Space'

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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Sep 1 12:33:03 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for icelord!

yay icelord!

Goodbye Blue Monday!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Sep 1 03:13:46 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 1 01:41:44 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trash must breed somehow, the more I
find to throw away, the more other
stuff appears.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 31 21:26:03 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick Aha! Yes! I definitely remember Bill and the Jello, one of the more memorable campaigns for sure.



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Icelord says:
(Sun Aug 31 20:36:38 2014 72.91.70.123) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael
Call me an ol' fashioned gal but I should
think breaking the whole house would really
be the only way to enjoy Spike and all he
has to offer *weg* then again you might
recall I'm a B/S shipper from way way back,
#5 if memory serves lol
*smootch*
Hope you enjoy the holiday raids of WOW ;0)



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Maverick says:
(Sun Aug 31 20:27:32 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper: Further to our discussion of Obama announcing he HAD tried to rescue Foley, here is a report hinting that Obama, himself, delayed the mission (while they moved him.). This makes sense to me and follows on the story that Obama and Jarrett dithered and dithered on attacking Osama Bin Laden, and Leon Panetta and some General actually made the decision.


Arctic Ice Myth. Plus, keep in mind there are active volcanoes in the area.


Maverick


True




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 31 19:43:53 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael I agree, I thought that was spot on casting!

abt So did I, only confirms Capaldi is the right man for the Doctor. My only quibble with the episode is that it was a bit too reminiscent of Dalek from the 9th Doctor's run.



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Maverick says:
(Sun Aug 31 19:02:33 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: Oh, sorry, for many years in the past, when I was growing up [in the olden days] Bill Cosby was the spokesperson for Jello Pudding. He was always in TV commercials talking to kids about it. Thus Cos-play.


DaddyCatALSO1: Peter Capaldi, who plays the new Doctor Who, played a W.H.O. [W(orld) H(ealth) O(rganization)] Doctor in the Brad Pitt movie "World War Z" (the Z is for Zombie.) Good movie, if you like George-Romero-type Zombie movies like I do.


DaddyCatALSO2: Would it help if I had started asking Question 5 as "The Oriental person from Question Number 4." (who I had established has a multi-syllabic last name.) The point is that if an Oriental person DOES have a mono-syllabic last name, he probably is Chinese; whereas if he has a multi-syllabic last name, he probably is Japanese.


Reading my latest Medicare-Advantage Monthly summary bill, there's a Chiropractor charge on there that's not mine. I used to have all kinds of horrible back problems, years ago, but they all ended when I forced myself to sleep on my side.


Maverick


Baker Street




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valMichael says:
(Sun Aug 31 18:45:45 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Aug 31 19:15:39 2014
Icelord It wasn't the sex that was terrifying, it was the aftermath with Angel and Parker. :) That is, if you don't include Spike and Buffy.
Destroying a house while having sex is a bit too rough for me. :)



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Icelord says:
(Sun Aug 31 18:26:47 2014 96.254.7.230) [Edit/Delete]
I kinda thought Buffy would be here ! www.mtv.com/news/1914194/se
x-terrifying-in-tv-shows



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valMichael says:
(Sun Aug 31 15:49:03 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Aug 31 16:12:29 2014
Happy Birthday: AimlessMind, Baby Meadow, Confessor Tee, FYI, Melaka, Risa, Rose, Dr. T, Whateva, and Witchmum!

ChristopherMarlowe
NetFlix finally has all of season 3 of "Once Upon A Time". I saw about half the season, and didn't see the rest. I really like Rose McGowen as young Cora.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Sun Aug 31 13:15:08 2014 72.78.162.13) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick As I understand it, the whole Dr. Who thing stemmed from the character's being simply named "The Doctor" and so people asked the question.
As for the Oriental surnames, but I could not for the life of me figure out what the last q. meant.

wolfguard Christopher Marlowe If I could afford to attend a con, I could probably afford a Cyrano costume. I might be able to do it without nose putty:-(.
I had another note to post to you two, but all I put down is "int" and can't recall why.

valMichael "Marion" with an "o" is the standard male spelling *g.

Agent Cooper Nyquil's sleep-inducing ingredient is doxolamine. When Zzzquil came out, I checked the label and it was just diphenhydramine, the same thing available in other sleep aids, and even cheaper as an antihistamine



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abt says:
(Sun Aug 31 12:40:39 2014 84.9.158.126) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe - again, I enjoyed the new Who episode this week.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Aug 31 12:28:20 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, August 31st 2014 C.E.

We have TEN (10) Birthdays!


AimlessMind
Baby Meadow (Carita's and Dr. Mister Fantasy's child)
Confessor Tee
FYI
Melaka
Risa
Rose
Dr. T - valMichael's sister - R.I.P.
Whateva
Witchmum


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
AimlessMind, Baby Meadow, Confessor Tee, FYI, Melaka, Risa, Rose, Dr. T, Whateva, Witchmum!



Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop. Xander, 'Revelations'

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wolfguard says:
(Sun Aug 31 04:32:48 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Just finished listening to the debate between Alistair Darling and Alex Salmond. Salmond is good and his supporters passionate, but I hope he is the sad one come 18 September.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 31 01:41:21 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
New Who!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 23:23:59 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick I doubt there will be
any jello-play in Utah. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Sat Aug 30 20:30:13 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Aug 30 20:45:25 2014
Christopher Marlowe: Cosplay? Just take some Jello Pudding.


Enjoying Season One of "Hannibal" the TV Series, having taken the DVD's out of the Library. Mads Mikkelsen is a great Hannibal Lecter.


Oriental Surnames Quiz:


1). People with the last name Park, such as Linda (from "Voyager") Grace (from "Battlestar Galactica" and "Hawaii Five-O") and Hettienne (from "Hannibal") probably came from families that originally came from? Answer South Korea


2. Rodriguez, Hernandez, Cruz--Spanish surnames--might indicate the Oriental person originally came from? Answer The Philippines


3. Oriental people with Nguyen as part of, or all of, their middle or last name probably originated from? Answer Vietnam


4. If an Oriental person's last name is multi-syllabilic, they are probably NOT from? Answer China


5. The Oriental person from 4. is therefore probably from? Answer Japan.


Maverick


A Whiter Shade of Pale




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 18:35:48 2014 70.198.34.224) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Aug 30 18:37:45 2014
OK, just got a tablet from verizon,.
Testing it out now.

Valmichael. No cosplay. But I hope to see some good
ones!



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valMichael says:
(Sat Aug 30 16:26:19 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe that should be fun! going to do any Cosplay?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 16:11:46 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael To Salt Lake City, there is a Comic con there that I wanted to check out.



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valMichael says:
(Sat Aug 30 15:43:06 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Aug 30 16:25:31 2014
Happy Birthday: jenpro, Samuri Cat, and Xanderphile!

ChristopherMarlowe
I think I can coax The Birthday Gnome out of retirement for the 5th and 6th of September. He has gotten into the habit of rising late (10AM or so :), so the birthdays won't be posted early.

Where are you going?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 15:26:30 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
it's going to be a lazy day for me, I can tell!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Aug 30 13:32:18 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday August 30 2014 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!



jenpro
Samuri Cat
Xanderphile


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
jenpro, Samuri Cat, Xanderphile!



This is a time of celebration, so sit still and be quiet. Snyder, 'Graduation Day (2)'

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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Aug 30 12:16:57 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--I miss Kate :(


ChristopherMarlowe--Take a dip in the Great Salt Lake for us :)


Belated Yay! KAM! May it propel you in your work on the house this weekend ;)


Belated Happy Birthday Lady Samantha!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sat Aug 30 09:50:47 2014 72.226.63.228) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Mary Shelley



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 30 06:47:44 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Yay KAM!


Happy Birthday Horizon!



Beldin,

I remember that song as being somewhat melancholy. Oh, to be young again. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

A little ritual dueling is good for the heart. *g*

I just watch AtS' The Ring. I remember it being good and it was superb. More later. One of my goddaughters is watching AtS for the first time. They were watching Sense and Sensitivity while I was watching The Ring and we texting about both. She seems to be a budding Angel/Kate shipper and keeps asking questions about their future ... and she really likes Doyle. She's worried he might go dark. Ask me, ~ He stays good? Yes, he stays good. I hurt for her already knowing Hero is approaching. :(



Good Night to All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 02:43:34 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I guess they didn't want to deal with any hassles with law enforcement or being hit with a lawsuit, just keeping the human traffic flowing is challenging enough!



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Beldin says:
(Sat Aug 30 02:42:39 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - Ya got that right. But I try to ignore that when I'm here.


Even when I'm listening to Jim Croce's "Operator" as I type this.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 30 02:26:24 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

A decade, yes. And a decade of aging. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

"Peace Bonded" How could anyone go about as a Klingon with a straight face? Makes as much sense as an Adult Entertainment Convention requiring everyone to wear a hijab and a chastity belt. :)

Seriously, a set of genres glorifying kicking-arse, but afraid of the boots. OTOH, hand a sword to most people who have never faced real violence and they immediately want to engage someone with it - ooops. Perhaps a wise rule. Sad, sad. *g*


WG



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Beldin says:
(Sat Aug 30 02:02:07 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - I would have thought the decade old mental connection, vibe, would have been enough. *G*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 01:49:43 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I believe most cons, including Dragoncon have a 'no weapons' policy.

Dragon Con has a clear *no weapons* policy that will be enforced. All weapons must be non-working and peace bonded. No functioning projectile weapons - including water pistols, silly-string guns, and ping-pong pistols.

Bladed weapons must be cased or sheathed at all times. No clowning around or showing off in the common areas. Any weapon used in an offensive manner will be confiscated and rule #7 enforced. We expect you to use good judgment; with your help, we can continue to allow peace-bonded weapons - thanks!
Real firearms are not allowed at Dragon Con. This includes those attendees who maintain a Georgia Weapons Carry License or a similar permit from another state. Dragon Con security, hotel security, and local law enforcement officials will treat anything that looks like a real weapon as a weapon. Attendees who choose to ignore this policy may be asked to leave the convention and will have their membership revoked. Since violators can also be arrested, you should know that Dragon Con does not post bail. (Sworn law enforcement are excused from this policy.)

I don't think there is ritual dueling, and I don't recall any other kind of dueling either.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 30 01:33:26 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Any ritual dueling?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 01:08:59 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Aug 30 01:11:04 2014
wolfguard Yes, there are innumerable parties, and fair number of big ones as well. Costume contests, band performances, or other live entertainment.

In addition, cosplaying is pretty much the biggest thing at Dragoncon, so there are a lot of photo shoots for whatever superhero universe you cosplay: Marvel, DC, Gender Bending Shoots, smaller shoots for video games, anime, etc. There are photo ops with celebrity guests, Art Alley for comic artists/writers, autograph signings too.

Just people watching is a big activity.


ETA

I forgot the gaming and the Art Show and film festivals. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 30 01:08:00 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

LOL

I don't know if we had line-of-sight down the 'great valley'. *g*

WG



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Beldin says:
(Sat Aug 30 00:56:42 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Aug 30 00:57:16 2014
Christopher Marlowe, wolfguard - DragonCon is a thing to be wished for. Except I don't like crowds. ;-) Petrona is there, as usual.


wolfguard2 - I cut the corner off Georgia a couple of times this week traveling between Birmingham, AL and Chattanooga, TN. I waved. Didja see me?



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 30 00:32:09 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Those are very impressive numbers. I should explore the possibilities of con's. *g*

I was talking with a person who had been to several cons. At one point I said, other than panels, parades, watching shows and buying and selling stuff, what else do you do at cons?

Her ~ A lot of partying back in the hotel rooms.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 00:27:59 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Aug 30 00:29:02 2014
wolfguard Because I had just mentioned Dragoncon and what I heard from early reports on record breaking attendance, although just 62K, not 75K *g*

Supposedly the Comic Con in Salt Lake City will draw 100K, and San Diego Comic Con apparently had 130K



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ShadowQuest says:
(Sat Aug 30 00:24:41 2014 74.33.112.169) [Edit/Delete]
Zoom through

Geek News Alert!!

Enver Gjokaj has been cast in "Marvel's Agent Carter"!!!!

Zoom, zoom



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 30 00:19:32 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Yes! Or so I'm told. How did you reason it? *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 30 00:03:32 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Is that the number of folks for Dragoncon this year?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 29 23:56:56 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
75,000


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 29 23:51:02 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin It's why I wasn't going to Dragoncon this weekend. I'd thought I'd give this one a try.



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Beldin says:
(Fri Aug 29 23:07:41 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - Cool beans! Enjoy.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 29 22:56:20 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin I'll be doing a weekend getaway next weekend, to the exotic locale of Salt Lake City. They actually have a comic con there now!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Aug 29 22:27:14 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
I'm willing to bet you have no idea of the true nature of these occurrences:


How (the magic formula of) Hiring More Minority Police Officers Will (only) Produce More Black Murders. Note: Ann Coulter also explains in this column how the real estate bubble burst in 2008 and what caused it (and, no, it was not George Bush.)


Do you think Lois Lerner (of the IRS scandal involving discrimination of Tea Party Groups--hey, it could just as easily been you) suffered losing her e-mails because her hard drive crashed? Do you believe that Progressive story? It's a lie. Just as we thought those e-mails are archived somewhere, despite the Director of the IRS swearing he looked into the matter and they were destroyed (her Blackberry WAS scrubbed clean however [to delete any evidence] right after the investigation was launched.) Her e-mails, of course, DO exist, and hopefully the lies will stop and we can put this creepy woman in jail.


Federal Government Fears ISIS Attacks Will Take Place in the U.S.A. Because of Obama's Open Mexican Border


Yes, Russia DID invade Ukraine territory, in case the Mainstream Media doesn't report this to you and would rather talk about Obama's beige suit.


Maverick


Betcha By Golly, Wow




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Beldin says:
(Fri Aug 29 20:55:25 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Here now.*


* Dave Moreland has been on vacation this week and so have I.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Aug 29 20:38:08 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: What character worked at Wally's Filling Station?
Answer: Goober Pyle

Trivia Goobers and Gomers: valMichael, notsoShyGirl, MAverick:


Belated Yay to KAM!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Aug 29 19:12:35 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Dr. Wallace, D.D.S.


4W: I think the following is pertinent to your discussion:


David Greenwalt was:


At Buffy:


Co-Executive Producer 1997-1998
Executive Producer 1998-1999
Consulting Producer 1999-2002


At Angel:


Executive Producer 1999-2002
Consulting Producer 2002-2004

Joss Whedon was:


At Buffy:


Executive Producer 1997-2003

At Angel:


Executive Producer 1999-2004


I think what you are saying is that "Buffy/Angel" was better WITH Greenwalt actively involved. Consulting producer is often an honorary position and not necessarily involved. Greenwalt was off developing other series including "Miracles" and "Moonlight" both excellent, although he did come back to direct an episode of "Angel" in 2004.


KAM: Yes, Yay, you! Well, my construction point was that I hired two contractors to do fairly complicated things and screened them by using Angie's List and was mostly happy with the result. You were bemoaning finding a good contractor. Angie's List includes detailed reviews of the contractor's work provided by Angie's List members who hired them.


Maverick


White Wedding




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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 29 18:56:22 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By


Christopher Marlowe,


"Today, the government defines extremism as "vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs".


Article (BBC)



WG



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KAM says:
(Fri Aug 29 18:19:21 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Afternoon Everyone,

YAY ME!

valMichael
Thanks for the YAY.

Maverick: I am familiar with the french drain concept and have thought about that as an alternative, but if the arrangement I have is done properly, it will work.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 29 17:33:13 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Wally!


HA!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 29 16:48:31 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael LOL! I love that!

BTW, I'll be out of town from the 4th to the 6th. Could you do the birthdays on the 5th and 6th?



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valMichael says:
(Fri Aug 29 16:05:08 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Question An aspiring supplicant visited an old Master in his temple, and asked what he needed to do to become his follower. The Master said first you must empty your mind of all things. The supplicant asked how he could do that. What did the master tell him?


wait for it ...


answer spoilered for delicate brains
] He's found that afternoon TV works perfectly![



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valMichael says:
(Fri Aug 29 15:40:20 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday: Fantasma, Horizon, Lady Samatha, and singsinthecar!

YAY KAM!

Trivia Girl
Jim Nabors (as Gomer Pyle)

Note: Andy Griffith starred in a 1958 comedy called "No Time For Sergeants". The plot from IMDB was: "Will Stockdale is a country bumpkin drafted into the Air Force and too dumb to realize he's driving everyone around him crazy -- no one more than Sgt. King."

Griffith copied the idea for the Gomer Pyle TV show from this movie! The movie was based on a play of the same name by Ira Levin which was based on the 1954 novel of the same name by Mac Hyman.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Fri Aug 29 14:36:26 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Aug 29 14:36:51 2014
Trivia Girl
Both Gomer and Goober Pyle worked at Wally's, although not at the same time.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Aug 29 14:32:22 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: What character worked at Wally's Filling Station?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Aug 29 13:16:40 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, August 29th 2014 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!



Fantasma
Horizon
Lady Samantha
singsinthecar


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Fantasma, Horizon, Lady Samatha, singsinthecar!



I'm not on the ship. I'm in the ship. I am the ship. River, 'Objects In Space'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayofTheDay says:
(Fri Aug 29 13:04:51 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for KAM!

yay KAM!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 29 04:10:46 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Dawn ie!


Happy Birthday J. August Richards!




Christopher Marlowe,

*G*

AtS is about helping the hapless. *g*




Good Night to All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 29 03:47:55 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard-. I couldn't think
of any other theme that fits. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 29 03:00:02 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I didn't know AtS was guided by the phrase, 'adulthood sucks'. *g*


4W,

Your rating of BtVS is a common held feeling, one with which I disagree. *g* OTOH, I agree with your reasoning that high school helped guide the writers in breaking seasons. OTOOH, your analogy is mixed, i.e. 'equilibrium' and 'grounded'. Still, I get your idea. *g*

Of AtS, I cannot now speak. Too long ago, though the rewatch is helping. I do remember being repelled by season 4, but less for the Connor story than Skippy essentially saying every characters' major decisions of the previous seasons were preordained. Would writers just give fate and destiny themes a rest? A deep rest? Six feet under.

Of Dollhouse, I read Joss saying the premise was a way of exploring how it is people are used and let themselves be used - or I think this is what he said. But, FOX came to believe the story needed a big bad or some other type of antagonist against which Echo and Ballard (?) could struggle.1 And they were probably right.

Echo, in her doll mode, was a bit removed from what we usually look for in a protagonist, especially if there're going to be fisticuffs (Maybe Joss can't write stories without action? If he had read that back during BtVS he would have probably written Frozen where everyone loses their ability to move. (or 'Molasses' move s-l-o-w-l-y like trying to run in dream ... change title to 'Quicksand'? Anyhow ...) There was Helpless. Anyhow ...

Beginning with a passive protagonist - except when she's someone else - makes it difficut for viewers to cheer them on or want to be like them. I want to be just like Echo ... 'Did I fall alseep? Can I go now?'

They needed the overarching story of what the hell is going on with all these dollhouses and how is Echo and Paul going to find the truth and take them down - and yet, I don't believe that was what Joss wanted to do when he set out.


1 Also read that FOX was happy with the premise and early show until someone noted the dolls were a lot like prostitutes. What?! No. Really? That's not good. What do we do about it?


WG



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4W says:
(Fri Aug 29 02:40:20 2014 24.158.143.251) [Edit/Delete]
Buffy seasons 1-3 were better realized than Angel seasons 3-5.

Angel seasons 1-2 were better realized than Buffy seasons 4-onward.

IMO, Buffy lost its equilibrium when Buffy graduated high school (and, yanno, Joss). "High school is
hell" kept it grounded. Without it, the show meandered aimlessly, sometimes lucking into good
episodes (like Hush, which was brilliant, but still had its problems).

Angel, on the other hand, lost its equilibrium when it introduced Connor, then again when it lost
Cordelia (and, yanno, Joss).

Both shows rebounded in their final seasons, Angel more successfully than Buffy (again, in my
opinion).

Not to derail discussion, but Dollhouse I felt was quite aimless at the start but the core of the show
seemed to solidify as the series progressed. It was just getting good when it got cancelled. Still
haven't brought myself to watch the last episode. I watch all but that one, then stop. Because if I
watch the last episode, it's really over, I guess.

Now back to your regular Bronze programming.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 29 02:24:28 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard If Buffy was 'high schools is hell' and Angel was 'adulthood sucks' then which show fulfilled that kind of labeling?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 29 01:49:49 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Excepting an occasional fight, I do not watch sports; nevertheless and undaunted, I will use a sport analogy. I imagine an athlete could be said to have realized his abilities if he excelled in the sport of his choosing; however, that sport measures it.

If I remember correctly, Barbara Streisand once won an Oscar, Emmy, and Tony all in one year. If that's correct, then she realized her performance abilities that year. *g*

Were any of the Batman, Spiderman, or Superman movies better realized than the others in the franchise? Oh, Bond - James Bond. There's formulaic franchise - if ever there was one. *g* Over the 50 odd years of Bondage, *g*, critics and whatnot's have offered their list of the top 5 or so Bond movies. Do the ones that consistently make the list show stay true to the formula or stray away? If the former, then how do they do the formula better? If the latter, is that why they are remembered well?

For a Bond movie to be realized, does it need to stay true to form?


WG



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Comma says:
(Fri Aug 29 01:38:48 2014 71.87.174.53) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Aug 29 01:41:05 2014
Well, what a start for games on the new SEC Network. Number 21 Texas A&M went to number 9 South Carolina to start the SEC schedule. South Carolina had won 18 straight home games, longest in the nation, and SC coach Steve Spurrier had lost one home opening game, as a coach, in his long career. A&M was given no chance to win. Texas A&M 52, South Carolina 28.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 29 01:05:30 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I'm bias. *g* What do you mean by 'realized'? What are some shows you feel were and were not 'realized'?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 29 00:54:54 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Slow down everyone! I can hardly keep up with the posting!

wolfguard Do you think Buffy was a better realized tv show than Angel?



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Maverick says:
(Fri Aug 29 00:54:48 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Aug 29 01:02:09 2014
DaddyCatALSO, Christopher Marlowe: I think I would give parts of (maybe all of) Hawaii to China to cancel out a lot of our National Debt.


Obama says he doesn't have a Strategy to address ISIS. What has he been doing for the last year or so? Besides golfing? You know, when he DOES come up with a Strategy, he will give a speech and announce it so that all his supporters are encouraged. In the meantime he will tell our enemies exactly how to outflank us. You don't reveal your strategy--you force your enemy to prepare for ALL contingencies, rather than to be able to skip certain expenditures.


Surprise: Robert Downey, Jr., says "Guardians of the Galaxy" is the best Marvel movie so far.


Maverick


You Make Me Feel Brand New




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 28 23:52:08 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Home!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 28 20:53:00 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Geography
Question: What is the largest inland sea in the world?
Answer: Caspian Sea

Trivia Sailors: valMichael, notsoShyGirl
Trivia Swabbers: Maverick, Agent Cooper

wolfguard If I could remove one state, it would be the state of lethargy. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Thu Aug 28 20:19:49 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: New Orleans during Katrina.


KAM: I started getting water in my Family Room which was added onto the house, by the people before me, at a low point at the back. I had a contractor dig what I think is called a French Drain besides the one side of the room, and he put some perforated sock pipe (covered with a fabric that prevents a lot of dirt getting in and clogging it.) It's worked well so far, although I haven't yet had the money to replace the carpet, and subflooring in the family room (but it's stayed dry.) Anyway, I got him AND my roofer (who I have no complaints about) from Angie's List. I forget what I paid for a membership but considered it worthwhile; they do give reviews of a contractor's work and encourage you to also report on their work. I would think this makes contractors think twice about doing shoddy work.


Okay, Obama declared his own version of the Dream Act (people who had been brought illegally to this country as children could stay) and this precipitated the current Border Crisis with all the "children" (actually most are in their teens and probably in gangs.) Now, he's expected to announce some kind of Amnesty Program and, with 1/3rd of the people in Mexico wanting to come to the U.S., they'll all come here for the Welfare Benefits (there's no jobs.) Obama doesn't care if those people degrade this country and cause crime and spread diseases. He just wants more Democratic voters. Methinks the existing Democratic voters should think about this. I know the old saying is that Republicans are for the Rich and Democrats are for the poor, but, think about it, when Business is doing well, there are jobs, whereas the Democrats need to KEEP people poor to keep the votes coming in. All this illegal immigration will just depress wages, they will compete for jobs, and we will run up more National Debt (which must eventually break the dollar) and the people will be on our streets creating crime. Allow Obama to get away with this and he will have all the poor Muslims here (and they will slit your throat.) Obama is recruiting Democratic voters.


Maverick


White Room




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valMichael says:
(Thu Aug 28 19:11:04 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Aug 28 19:36:56 2014
Happy Birthday: CJ, Faris, FIREHAWK, J. August Richards, Kresnik, spikelover, Toni, Unadopted Angie, and Zorander!

YAY ?

Trivia Girl
Caspian Sea which is a remnant of the much large Vilayet Sea in the Hyborean Age!
Unfortunately, I couldn't foresee the answer as I was asleep til about 1 pm, and I rarely get vision at 4:00 AM when I went to bed. :)

Interesting facts
  1. The top 9 states in the US contain more than half the total US population.
  2. The top 11 states in population contain 56% of the population, and enough electoral votes to elect the president alone
  3. If the Great Lakes are included, ever one of the top 15 states in population are adjacent to large bodies of water. (Pennsylvania barely touches Lake Erie)
  4. The most populous state that doesn't touch a major body of water is Arizon(16th)


wolfguard re: DaddyCatALSO question? Only a few states have the economic power to go it alone. California, Texas, and New York could easily be their own countries with GDPs in excess of 1 trillion dollars. If they were counted in with the other countries in the world, California would be 9th largest, Texas would be 13th, and New York 16th. Note: This counts the European Union as one economic region, not separate countries just below the whole US. With these three removed the US drops to second behind the European Union.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 17:58:58 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By


Trivia Girl

If we include inland seas connected inter-dimensionally to Earth, then the largest inland sea intersects with the Cleveland hellmouth in Georgia. Seriously, it's in the non-canon. *g*


A Very Special DaddyCatALSO Question

If you could remove just one state from the USA, which one would you remove?


WG



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KAM says:
(Thu Aug 28 17:55:02 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello again,

Agent Cooper: Well, this is not the main discharge pipe, but a backup. I've already started at the outlet end (which is PVC pipe) but it then goes into corrugated tube, and that's where the clay is getting in--just not sure where.

A good contractor is a rare and wonderful thing. I wish I had access to some of them.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 28 17:42:51 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Let's see, I guess my neighbors yard. Lowest spot in the town and fills up every time it rains!


I wish I were at DragonCon!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 28 16:09:16 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Yay for OldManFan!

I'm assuming OldManFan is off to Dragoncon, which is why we aren't seeing the yays today.

Happy CD Thursday!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Aug 28 14:34:25 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
The Caspian Sea is the largest enclosed inland body of water on Earth by area,
variously classed as the world's largest lake or a full-fledged sea. The sea has a
surface area of 371,000 km(143,200 sq mi) (not including Garabogazkl Aylagy) and a
volume of 78,200 km (18,800 cu mi)



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 28 14:31:44 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Geography
Question: What is the largest inland sea in the world?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 28 13:52:27 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
KAM: I hear you! My uncle worked as a contractor all his life. He's actually 70 and still working. He's seen it all and he's told me some horror stories.

Anyway, about the pipe: Take this with a grain of salt because I'm far from an expert, but I had a bit of sump trouble when I bought my house.

From what I understand, the pipe running up and out of the house isn't usually buried very deep, only a couple of feet so it shouldn't be too hard to get to. You may also find it to be a PVC pipe which isn't all that hard to work with, IE you can cut it and put a new section in pretty easy.

Let us know how it works out.



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Aug 28 12:39:13 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
Belated Yay! Corvus!


Belated Happy Birthday Humvee!



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KAM says:
(Thu Aug 28 12:27:25 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY...

Maverick
: Well, my house is pretty well insulated, but there is undoubtedly some settling of the attic insulation, so another layer of that would probably help a bit. Not sure I'm going to tackle that this fall however.
My sleep has returned to normal, thankfully.

Agent Cooper: I'm sure this isn't something my insurance would cover. I am going to try and work through the blockage with water. I talked to a contractor that has specific high-pressure equipment for just this case, but the cost is higher than I want to pay. If it solved the problem, I would pay it, but at best this will be a temporary solution, requiring the point of entry to be found and fixed, so for now, I'm going to dig stuff up and see if I can find that point. Won't be fun.

Home builders are really incompetent at an alarming rate. The inspections that I pay the town for do nothing to actually help--and is just a roundabout tax that causes me to spend even more money to take care of trivialities, while letting major issues go unnoticed (like your door problem). I kept a pretty close eye on things as my home was being built, but I was gone for some periods, and I'm sure they cut as many corners as they could. Really criminal.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Aug 28 12:26:07 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, August 28th 2014 C.E.

We have NINE (9) Birthdays!



CJ
Faris
FIREHAWK
J August Richards as Charles Gunn
Kresnik
spikelover
Toni
Unadopted Angie
Zorander


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
CJ, Faris, FIREHAWK, J. August Richards, Kresnik, spikelover, Toni, Unadopted Angie, Zorander!



Willow: Yikes. Imagine the things...Buffy: No! Stop imagining! All of you! Xander: Already got the visual.
'Intervention'


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Dogmeat says:
(Thu Aug 28 08:02:18 2014 72.226.63.228) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday
Amanda Tapping
Brian Thompson
J. August Richards



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 03:52:49 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Corvus!!

Happy Birthday HumVee!



Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

You get to your seat on the airplane and find out your seatmate is... who?

I'd like a second shot at this tomorrow, but for now a quiet sleeper will be the placeholder. *g*


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 03:15:54 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I wasn't saying 'Flower Children' were following an extremist ideology, but were using them to show an ideology did not have to be extreme to impress. It was off your, "...I wonder at how impressionable youth are when it comes to extremist ideology"

I define extremist as the person on the opposite side of the ideological seesaw from me. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 28 03:01:23 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Aug 28 04:26:01 2014
wolfguard That's a good point. , but I wonder how we are defining extremist?

a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action.

Flower children wouldn't qualify, as their view isn't political or religious.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 02:56:13 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

An ideology doesn't have to be 'extremist' to be impress young minds. Consider all 'the flower children' of the 60's.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 28 01:34:51 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Yeah, I was
reading on the various nationalist
parties, which led me to reading
the entry on yakuza and I realized
I was getting in too deep and hit
the 'Back' Button.

That assassin was only 17 years old
and I wonder at how impressionable
youth are when it comes to
extremist ideology.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 01:19:26 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe the politician was a socialist and the assasin was a young right-wing nationalist.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 28 01:06:12 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard In reading about the
reaction at the time, it was
considered extremely shocking. I
presume security improved after that.

I wound up going to wiki for more
detail and it was something of a
rabbit hole. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 00:49:00 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I've only seen one complete episode of The Sopranos, but the series finale is infamous. I just had to know if Tony was alive or dead and I read enough of the article to learn the answer. *g*


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 28 00:22:27 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I've seen a clip that shows the assassin running across the stage. What's interesting is that the politician appears to have been caught completely off guard. He was probably completely focused on his speech and audience. The assassin sped across the stage in a couple seconds or so.

Off this one can learn 'close' is much farther than most realize. And yet boys and men still get into each others' face, trying to scare each other into backing off. Some people just see that as an opportunity to sucker punch, knee, head, or knife you.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 28 00:21:37 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I started reading
that David Chase article and then
realized just how long it is. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 27 23:54:57 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I watched that clip
of the assassination of the Japanese
politician. Not only did he have to
cross the stage, he was able to sneak
the sword into the venue without
raising suspicion.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 27 23:28:00 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
I'm around finally!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 27 21:31:18 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Is the BBS Tony Soprano alive or dead?

David Chase 'says'...



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 27 21:26:32 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What beverage did Spike and Angel once fight over?
Answer: Mountain Dew

Trivia Presient: valMichael
Trivia Masters: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Diet Peppers: Maverick, Agent Cooper



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 27 18:14:24 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick: I saw a news story about those kidnapped journalists and the rescue op that failed.

From that story I heard that some of the journalists were freed before they executed the American journo. When the freed journos were debriefed they were able to tell officials enough info that they were able to figure out which city they had been held in.

Of course, the terrorists holding them knew the freed hostages would divulge this info so they of course moved their remaining hostages elsewhere before a rescue op could be organized.

This is what happened and why they couldn't help, at least, according to the info given in the news story.

Really awful and depressing.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 27 18:01:00 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Aug 27 18:13:27 2014
Just caught the first half hour of BBC's "World Have Your Say". The host was talking with six police officers, from around the world, on their use of firearms. The group consisted of two Americans, one Brazilian, one Canadian, one Kenyan, and one from the UK.

Both the cops from Brazil and Kenya said/suggested they had shot their weapons in the course of duty.1 The UK cop, while apparently involved SWAT-type duties, had never fired his weapon. He was working in the west Midlands and the last fatal shooting by a cop in his (?) city (didn't catch the name) was in 1995.2 The Canadian cop (RMCP) had shot a bank robber during a bank robbery ~cut and dry~ he said.3

Neither of the American cops had ever fired their weapons in the course of duty (one having served 25 years and one 34 years). They had come close. The host asked one for a specific example. Here's my memory of the cop's account ...

He and his partner had gone to a school to follow up on a student who had threaten suicide some time before. As they were walking down a hallway to leave ...

~ A male black around 15 came running towards and past us yelling, Help me! He's going to shoot me!

Another male black around 15 with a gun came running down the hall yelling, I'm going to kill you mother*!

This took all of two seconds.

My partner had ducked behind a concrete column but I was in the middle of nowhere. I drew my gun I order the guy to stop.4

The guy hesitated, froze and then threw the gun down and fell onto the floor in a fetal position.


And then we found out that outside the front door the school was holding a program on school violence and what we had just experienced was staged for the program. The gun was a toy.5 BUT no one, including the school, had told us about it.

We would have been completely justified had we shot, but imagine how it would have looked. White cops shoot black kid.


This was just before the department changed to Glock 9mm's. We were still using 38 revolvers.6.



1 Apparently they were not including firing their weapons in training.

2 In comparison, the Kenyan cop said there were 165 shootings so far this year (by cops?!) in Nairobi (or Kenya, he appeared to be based in Nairobi).

3 He was working with a surveillance operation that had intel that one of several banks was going to be robbed. They had staked out the banks and he happened to be in the one the robbers hit. The robbers came in with shotguns and the cop shot one. The robber was not killed, but seriously wounded.

4 The words were probably more direct, loud, and repeated.

5 Some 'toy' guns and most all of the 'airsoft' guns look like real guns.

6 Essentially, he's implying that the revolvers longer trigger pull may have prevented a shooting.



ETA These are both YouTube clips. Both are violent, but there's no visible gore in the first one. In the second one you will see the politician stabbed, but there's no visible gore.

Cops pulls over driver. Driver gets out of car. What would you do and when when would you do it?

Traffic Stop


Japanese politician assassinated on camera. Assassin used a sword and had to cross a stage to reach the politician.

Assassination in Japan


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 27 17:54:29 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
KAM- Geez! That is not good. Maybe it will turn out to be not so badly clogged. Could be that it is a small clog and can be cleared with one of those roto-snakes plumbers use. Not sure of the proper name? But if so you can rent those at the hardware places, and they're not hard to use. Have you checked to see if your homeowner's insurance covers this?

Anyways, I feel your pain. A couple of years ago I was replacing my little wooden back steps with a small deck. When we pulled the steps away from the back door, we found all the wood on the bottom of the door frame had rotted!

My house is relatively new (1999) and I was really puzzled by this. Replacing a whole door frame is way beyond my skill level so I had to pay a contractor to cut out the whole rotted door frame and replace it. And THAT was a bunch of cash I didn't really want to spend on top of the deck budget. ]:-(

When the carpenters tore apart the old frame they found that the original builder had never sealed the door frame correctly and that's why water was getting in.

Now I wonder about the front door and all my windows. Are they leaking too??

I tried to get my homeowner's to help me defray the cost, but they wouldn't touch it. Sometimes I feel like, what DO they cover? Your house pretty much has to burn down or something before they pay anything, it seems. ]:-( ]:-(



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Maverick says:
(Wed Aug 27 16:33:41 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: A bottle of Harvey's Bristol Cream (Sherry.)


KAM: Sleeping problems? I always advise unclenching your fists (flatten your hands) and say (silently) the word "Love" on the exhale. (The point is to stop your internal voice from talking to you.) If this doesn't work, you might have some muscle or nerve irritating pain problems, so take two aspirin. BTW, another cold winter coming up; if I had any money, I would add to my attic insulation.


Deadguy QOD: An OPEN Southern Border would be unexplainable to ANYONE from ANYTIME. It is so stupid; it must be criminal. A recent poll of Mexicans turned up that 1/3rd of all the people in Mexico would like to cross the border (they're probably packing as we speak.) So, what does the President concentrate on: making heroes of teen thugs and spending money on Global Warming (of which there is none.)


When the reporter James Foley was beheaded, our government put out an announcement that, actually, an attempt HAD been mounted to rescue him, but that it went to the wrong place and he was not there. Why would anyone in their right mind reveal this? It would certainly make any future actions that much harder as ISIS would be on alert; they only possible reason Obama would announce this is for domestic consumption, trying to prove to voting Americans that he had done SOMETHING, no matter how foolish. You don't announce your strategy and/or tactics. Like as a person, you never announce that you don't have a gun and don't know judo; you let others believe you do.


Maverick


Vehicle




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KAM says:
(Wed Aug 27 16:31:19 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Aug 27 16:32:13 2014
Hello Again,

valMichael: Well, at least a wealthier class of people. I'm sure there are plenty of jerks distributed evenly throughout all areas of a given flight.
I have only flown first class one time, and it was an unexpected (free) upgrade). I think one time I took a $30 business upgrade.
I've witnessed larger people literally apologizing repeatedly, because the seats are just too small.
Airline seats feel crowded for me, and I'm average framed, but it is the length more than the width that really bothers me. I am not sure why anyone thinks it is a good idea to allow a seat to recline within inches of my face.

Agent Cooper: Yes, I have a clogged drain pipe, which WAS my emergency sump drain--meaning, if the power failed, the water would hit a point where it would flow via gravity outside.
Either due to flawed installation, or I chimpmunk damage (my top suspect) the pipe has gotten severely clogged with clay--I mean like packed in.
I had a near-miss on a basement flood due to this, which I just discovered, and due to a float switch being stuck (lucky I checked). In any case--this is a very laborious and/or costly job I have ahead of me.
Really not happy about this at all.

OldManFan: I'd be lucky if I felt that optimistic at this point.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 27 15:52:58 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: The last Caffeine-free Coke.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Aug 27 15:35:30 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
What valMichael said.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 27 15:29:48 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Aug 27 15:32:31 2014
Apologies for the delay, trivia coming up!

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What beverage did Spike and Angel once fight over?

you are too spooky, valMichael!



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valMichael says:
(Wed Aug 27 15:16:04 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Aug 27 15:45:13 2014
Happy Birthday: Blade the Vampire Hunter, Freddy, HumVee, and Jules the Elder!

YAY Corvus!

Trivia Girl
precognition: A Goblet filled with Mountain Dew! (what Angel and Spike fought over in "Destiny").

deadguy QOD[/b] Good seatmate: Someone interesting to talk to, or a beautiful woman. It would be perfect if she was also interesting to talk to.
Bad seatmates: rambunctious or crying children. (anywhere close actually).

ChristopherMarlowe I have read part of Infinity you mentioned. the first few pages are available to review via Amazon. I read them and the book sounds very interesting.

KAM as a very large person, I feel your pain. :) That's why first class is a much better way to fly. Even I don't crowd my seat mate then, and you sit by a better class of people that way. :)

Question A Taxi company had some mechanics to repair their vehicles. One mechanic specialized in body work because the drivers were always getting into finder-benders. He got so good and proud of his work, he would put up before and after pictures of his repair jobs on the wall at his work bench. The guys at the shop gave him a nickname based on his skill in fixing the taxi's bodies. What was it?


wait for it ...


answer spoilered for delicated brains
] They call him The Taxi-dermist! [



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 27 13:32:35 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
OldManfan ROFL! Too true. *g*



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Aug 27 13:28:24 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
KAM, Christopher Marlowe - you are both obviously 'glass half empty' people. *g

OMF



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Aug 27 13:03:34 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, August 27th 2014 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!



Blade the Vampire Hunter
Freddy
HumVee
Jules the Elder


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Blade the Vampire Hunter, Freddy, HumVee, Jules the Elder!



Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny. Oz, 'Dead Man's Party'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Aug 27 12:55:37 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Yay corvus!

deadguy memorial qod

I wouldn't mind if my seatmate was Tony Head/Giles. He would be a great conversationalist. But it would be my luck if it turned out to be Drusilla.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 27 12:39:26 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
KAM - Are you planning on doing some work on your house?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 27 12:34:11 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
I saw this on the web today and I think it's very pithy:

A question was posed on a blog. I'll paraphrase a bit:

If someone from the 1950s were suddenly to appear in the world today, what would be the most difficult thing to explain about life today?

The Best Answer: I possess, in my pocket, a device with which I can access the entirety of human knowledge.

I use it to look at videos of cats and argue with strangers.

:-)



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KAM says:
(Wed Aug 27 12:31:27 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY CORVUS

Deadguy QOD
: A very large person, who apologizes profusely, but crowds the hell out of me anyway.

Agent Cooper: Well, people with real sleep problems would probably laugh at my "issues." I generally sleep like a baby, so a restless night for me is probably considered a good night for some.
That said--my sleep has gotten a bit more back to normal already. Thank Goodness for that, because my home issues are going to require me to do a lot of unpleasant labor, so I will need the rest.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Aug 27 11:53:57 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for corvus!

yay corvus!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

unexpected meetings - they tend to make great stories (good or bad)

you get to your seat on the airplane and find out your seatmate is... who? for married folk we waive the required spouse answer.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Comma says:
(Wed Aug 27 10:30:11 2014 71.87.174.53) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe: What do I most look forward to with the SEC?

One hears, in the southland, about which team(s) is on top, of the football mountain, all the time, and nothing about the so-so teams. There is a lot of good football, in the SEC, outside of the Alabama's, the LSU's, or the Auburn's normal winning seasons. I understand football and how it is played. I just do not have time to study fourteen teams on my own. The SEC network gives me the experts, who support and report about different teams, so I can follow those teams without real work.

The other part of the SEC network is the different sports that SEC teams, and students, play. They will cover lots more than the big one, football, and it's two little brothers, within the SEC, basketball and baseball.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 27 03:40:59 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I checked wiki, and
it ends with Jheria walking out of
the Angel Investigation offices. It
doesn't look like he was tied up
during the episode.

Expecting is Pregnant Cordy. I've Got
You Under My Skin is about a demon
trapped inside the body of a souless
child.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 27 03:24:04 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Slayerdaddy!!



Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


Worst Emmy snub? Joss? Writers? Actors? Makeup?

The Genre



Good Night to All

WG


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